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In a bind 14 Apr 2009 12:18 #1

With are move going on 3 weeks ago I have left behind the start of my shoeing business. It took time for the clients to build up before but I have never had as many calls that turn into nothing as I have had now with the new move.


I have tried to make contacts to join up with other farriers in the area and work/ride along with them, one local farrier who is booked full is helping me out by referring people to me. I really want to work with someone vs. try and steal or take another farriers business. I have plans to join the local chapter and hopes that something will fan out.


Chillicothe got me excited about shoeing, had my clients had a mentor and now I'm paddling up stream.

All in all that is life! I am looking for any more good advice I can get, I have received so much from the people on this forum

Thanks All
Take Care

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RE:In a bind 14 Apr 2009 14:35 #2

We are in a bind because of the economic woes right now.

Q: Why did you move?
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RE:In a bind 14 Apr 2009 15:08 #3

A: We moved because of two full time job offers, however at the new year with the times as they are we are only part time employees. We had not be informed about the problem untill after the move.


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RE:In a bind 14 Apr 2009 17:14 #4

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I started my whole fledgling business in 2007 by simply designing a flyer on my computer, buying some nice thick paper and ink from the office supply store, printing them at home, and hand delivering them to any houses/farms with horses on property. If anyone was at home I spoke to them. I am also not keen on "stealing" other shoers business. I tell all potential clients that if they have a good horseshoer, that shows up, calls back, and does good work please keep them. It was very tedious to drive everywhere looking for places to stick the flyers, but it is also very specific and effective advertising. It worked very well for me and I was busier faster than I would have ever believed, not getting rich busy but doing quite a bit of work. I was getting calls constantly for about 3 months and even now still get calls 1.5 years later. I probably should have done another week of hand outs to really fill my books but never did. Good luck. Stay Safe.
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RE:In a bind 14 Apr 2009 18:01 #5

ocsmitty wrote:
I started my whole fledgling business in 2007 by simply designing a flyer on my computer, buying some nice thick paper and ink from the office supply store, printing them at home, and hand delivering them to any houses/farms with horses on property. If anyone was at home I spoke to them. I am also not keen on "stealing" other shoers business. I tell all potential clients that if they have a good horseshoer, that shows up, calls back, and does good work please keep them. It was very tedious to drive everywhere looking for places to stick the flyers, but it is also very specific and effective advertising. It worked very well for me and I was busier faster than I would have ever believed, not getting rich busy but doing quite a bit of work. I was getting calls constantly for about 3 months and even now still get calls 1.5 years later. I probably should have done another week of hand outs to really fill my books but never did. Good luck. Stay Safe.
Bryant

Never beg for work!!!!!...EVER!!!!
Once you do that; then they will never have "respect" you, or your shoeing capabilities!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best to say,
"I'll have to take a look at your horse and see what needs to be done."
Then you can say well if you have the time; I have just enough time to the rest of your horses done today. I just a last minute cancellation of one of my other clients. Afterwards, get paid; then set up another time to reshod in 6 weeks. Do a follow up call to make sure everything is good to go.

Never appear too busy that you don't have time to take on new clients; but never look like you have any business at all.

Go to as many horseshows as possible; someone always has a loose shoe; or wasn't done prior to showing; then give out your business card to them. Talk to people and never limit yourself. If they hand you a name and phone number and say she can never get a farrier. Follow up on the next day with a call and say that you saw your friend at a horseshow and wanted me to call you for about shoeing, ect.
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RE:In a bind 14 Apr 2009 18:14 #6

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Jarred,

How far away did you move? Would it be possible for you to travel to the clients where you formerly lived? If so, do so. At least until you get established where you now live.
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RE:In a bind 14 Apr 2009 18:38 #7

I have had the idea of the flyers, and just stopping to talk to people. We however keep saying no because of the fact we don't want to beg for work.

Rick, I am keeping my current clients that I have had prior to the move, it gives me a reason to go home and see family and friends and get paid to do so, Also my prior mentor will assist any calls I cannot tend to.



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RE:In a bind 14 Apr 2009 18:41 #8

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Are you saying passing out flyers is begging for work? What you put on the flyer is that you are a horse shoer currently seeking to take on a "limited number of new clients". Don't make the heading on flyer "Starving Horseshoer needs any and all work possible" and that should about take care of it.
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RE:In a bind 14 Apr 2009 19:51 #9

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We don`t see flyers as Begging for work!!
If you have a great band playing in some club who will go when you don`t have flyers..
Make a good flyer spend a bit of money on it make it in a easy format so you can us it as a visit card at the same time ....get a number ,a website and drum out yourself!!!

Get it done by profis if possible....

you have a Business and thats you .....you are not begging you are offering a service .

Ray knightley farrier ,germany.

ps married to a advertising agent..:D
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RE:In a bind 14 Apr 2009 20:09 #10

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Jarred

Mate I well understand you predicament
Ive been there yeah
Don't feel off about using flyers
Just dont fill them with bull dust and puffery
short and sweet honest

doesn't matter where you go or if you stay , there is always someone new going to come into and area and try start up a business
some will bull dust they way in as best they can with all sorts of promises
the will under cut and use every trick in the trade to get your trade
it takes time for folk to realise they aren't getting what they want or was promised or as good as they were getting before
some will come back

So what am I saying
just be fair dinkum mate yeah
with yourself and your clients new n old
be proud and confident with your self be humbley respectfull
you will be alright Mate yeah


good luck
Mark Anthony Amor
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RE:In a bind 15 Apr 2009 03:38 #11

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Jarred,

Contact and join your county chapter of the Ohio Horseman's Council. I've picked up customers from the OHC during trail rides and council events. Most county chapters have a members and advertisers directory. Cost is extremely reasonable.

Offer your services at local horse shows too.

Work on establishing a relationship with the local vets. You might get a few referrals and you'll need those working relationships going forward.

Best Luck,

Mark
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RE:In a bind 15 Apr 2009 20:18 #12

oatey_hocking wrote:
All in all that is life! I am looking for any more good advice I can get, I have received so much from the people on this forum

Thanks All
Take Care

Jarred

Hi Jarred

Their is always folks looking for a farrier for various reasons. I get calls from people who find my name on the Internet. Some have lost their farrier, new to horses and do not have one. People will also look at feed stores and tack shops. I see nothing wrong with advertising. Once you start picking up work then word of mouth will also help you.
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"Anyone who proposes to do good must not expect people to roll stones out of his way, but must accept his lot calmly if they even roll a few more upon it." Albert Schweitzer
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RE:In a bind 16 Apr 2009 13:59 #13

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Jarred,

One suggestion I can make is to become active in the local horse community. Join any local groups and clubs that have interests similar to yours, go to equine events that are public and participate in any that interest you. Offer to be a guest speaker, give free basic hoofcare seminars, find ways to help with fundraisers, etc. When you do this, you are not there to 'drum up business', you are there to share your interests and passions. Meet people, make friends, and have fun. When people look for someone to do business with, they usually look in their community first. Oh, and make sure you always have a business card for anyone who asks.

that is sound advice.
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RE:In a bind 17 Apr 2009 05:00 #14

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I find that county riding club events are good places to "hangout." Especially if you or a family member participate. You can make quite a few positive contacts this way.
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