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TOPIC: Kiwi device for passing on fuel cost to the owner

Kiwi device for passing on fuel cost to the owner 03 Mar 2009 18:17 #1

  • Rick Talbert
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Gas in my area is creeping back up around 2.00 now, and I am reconsiderring a thought I had last summer. I wonder if any of you have heard of a device called a Kiwi? Apparently you can type into it the price of the gas purchased and it will tell you the actual cost spent driving from point A to point B. This past year I spent in the ball park of 12,500 in fuel. Passing this cost on to the owner is essentially giving myself a 12,500 dollar raise. Having a set mileage rate to me seems like it could bite you in the rear end when gas prices fluctuate. When gas prices drop, owners may expect your travel fee to drop as well. If they rise over your mileage rate then your loosing money and have to readjust your rates accordingly. I hate math, I want a device to tell me how much the actual cost was on a drive to a client. This Kiwi device seems like it could be a very fair and easy way to pass on the fuel price. I've discussed the device with a few of my clients and they think it is a very fair way of doing things. If I do this, I can keep my same prices this year and still make more money. Do any of you have any experience with this particular Kiwi device or anything like it?
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RE:Kiwi device for passing on fuel cost to the owner 03 Mar 2009 19:14 #2

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Rick Talbert wrote:
Gas in my area is creeping back up around 2.00 now, and I am reconsiderring a thought I had last summer. I wonder if any of you have heard of a device called a Kiwi? Apparently you can type into it the price of the gas purchased and it will tell you the actual cost spent driving from point A to point B. This past year I spent in the ball park of 12,500 in fuel. Passing this cost on to the owner is essentially giving myself a 12,500 dollar raise. Having a set mileage rate to me seems like it could bite you in the rear end when gas prices fluctuate. When gas prices drop, owners may expect your travel fee to drop as well. If they rise over your mileage rate then your loosing money and have to readjust your rates accordingly. I hate math, I want a device to tell me how much the actual cost was on a drive to a client. This Kiwi device seems like it could be a very fair and easy way to pass on the fuel price. I've discussed the device with a few of my clients and they think it is a very fair way of doing things. If I do this, I can keep my same prices this year and still make more money. Do any of you have any experience with this particular Kiwi device or anything like it?

I don`t have a kiwi ,but we had a talk today about local logic in our area ,
Goes like this "car needs a jump start then " the local logic answer would be "well drive it over here and I will jump start it for you"

In the case of a 12,000 pay rise well ,on that you could stay at home ............Think then of all the cash you would save !!:D

We dont take gas money but they all have to wait now until We are in the area ..That works well .

Ray knightley.farrier.
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RE:Kiwi device for passing on fuel cost to the owner 16 Mar 2009 19:28 #3

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Of course, if math isnt yor thing, this may not work for you. I am just starting out, so my policies are subject to change when better ideas come along, but I charge so much a mile beyond 30mi- about 1.5x the actual operating cost of my rig (~35cents with $2 diesel, so I round it up to $0.50). If I have several clients in one general area, I'll split the charge among all of them. I just explain to them that I only get 17-18mpg with my big guzzlingn 4x4 dually, and that they ARE an hour (or more) away, and I need to recoup some of that expense. So far, it has worked out alright. I am also lucky enough to be in an area where farriers are hard to come by, competent ones even more so, and most of them wont return calls.

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