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TOPIC: Ddf tenotomy or euthanize??

Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 09 Jul 2012 01:00 #1

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I'm questioning the vets recommendations to either put this horse down or do a ddf tenotomy. first pic LF second RF third LR fourth RR
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Re: Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 09 Jul 2012 12:09 #2

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What else has been done so far? What was cause? What management changes have been made?

I've seen a lot worse come around sound with proper care and no cut tendons.
Are you feeding your horse like a cow?
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Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 09 Jul 2012 12:30 #3

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Katy Watts wrote:
What else has been done so far? What was cause? What management changes have been made?

I've seen a lot worse come around sound with proper care and no cut tendons.
yes so have I...nothing has been done so far they just found out that's why I'm so surprised at what what the vet had to say ...I will be working on the horse this week ... I plain on using reddens rocker rails to unload the ddf tendon and get some sole under him..from what I understand the client has had the horse a few months so who knows what kind of management the horse had but from what his hooves look like it looks to be a chronic case


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Re: Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 09 Jul 2012 13:58 #4

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I recommend a second opinion from a vet who understands the importance of testing for Eq. Met Syn., Cushing's, and diet.
If you want surgery, go to a surgeon. This vet is not a holistic practitioner who is up to speed on management of chronic laminitis.
This article will be of help to your client:
www.safergrass.org/pdf/LaminitisDefense.pdf
Are you feeding your horse like a cow?
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Re: Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 09 Jul 2012 21:45 #5

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This horse does need a full workup. These radiographs indicate a long standing laminintis problem with some P3 bone loss and suspicious of circulatory compromise. It would be good to have more history, pictures, and general management information along with some laboratory workups and vengograms before plunging in on this case. Before I do a tenotomy when I see radiographs like these, I would definitely do a venogram.

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Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 10 Jul 2012 02:14 #6

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mwmyersdvm wrote:
This horse does need a full workup. These radiographs indicate a long standing laminintis problem with some P3 bone loss and suspicious of circulatory compromise. It would be good to have more history, pictures, and general management information along with some laboratory workups and vengograms before plunging in on this case. Before I do a tenotomy when I see radiographs like these, I would definitely do a venogram.

M. W. Myers, DVM
I agree that's what I told the client. VENOGRAM.


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Re: Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 10 Jul 2012 02:36 #7

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Cut this one at 3PM today after venograms.


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Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 10 Jul 2012 12:46 #8

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Donnie Walker wrote:
Cut this one at 3PM today after venograms.


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hey Donnie nice to see you :)...what did the venogram look like.im going to shoe this horse and make the client go to a vet in navasota that dr redden works with to get a venogram before I do anything else with the horse


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Re: Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 10 Jul 2012 13:20 #9

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There was loss of contrast down the face of P111 along the palmar surface and a diminished blood supply in the terminal arch. The circumflex vessel was restricted and the medial quarter was compromised. Dr. Redden had seen the radiograph but was unable to view the venogram as he was conducting his Podiatry 101 class in Kentucky at the time it was taken so the attending vet made the decision. The other foot, so far, is fairing much better and did not need surgery at that time.
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Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 10 Jul 2012 14:54 #10

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Donnie Walker wrote:
There was loss of contrast down the face of P111 along the palmar surface and a diminished blood supply in the terminal arch. The circumflex vessel was restricted and the medial quarter was compromised. Dr. Redden had seen the radiograph but was unable to view the venogram as he was conducting his Podiatry 101 class in Kentucky at the time it was taken so the attending vet made the decision. The other foot, so far, is fairing much better and did not need surgery at that time.
good to know.thanks


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Re: Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 10 Jul 2012 17:53 #11

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Donnie Walker wrote:
There was loss of contrast down the face of P111.....
Where is the P111(sic) bone located and what is its function? ;)
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Re: Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 10 Jul 2012 21:50 #12

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Rick Burten wrote:
Donnie Walker wrote:
There was loss of contrast down the face of P111.....
Where is the P111(sic) bone located and what is its function? ;)


Rick, You learn about that one in Redden's next class :P
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Re: Ddf tenotomy or euthanize?? 10 Jul 2012 22:54 #13

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Rick Burten wrote:
Donnie Walker wrote:
There was loss of contrast down the face of P111.....
Where is the P111(sic) bone located and what is its function? ;)

PIII - got me on that one - and I thought I was on a roll.
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