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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 26 Jun 2011 22:19 #16

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Travis Reed wrote:
....or better yet have a person that knows nothing about horses call the shots on the well being of the horses...

That hits the nail on the head. City also has rule against accepting donations from the public. These days under his (LT) rule I don't miss being a full time officer.

I've stated my opinion to him. This the same guy who forbade me to assist David when doing the City horses even on my own time.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 26 Jun 2011 22:27 #17

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Doesn't a police officer have an obligation to uphold the law? If the horse is not getting appropriate care you should report them (the police department) to the SPCA.
I would say that no veterinary diagnostics on a horse that is in pain and lying down would qualify. But now we are asking advice of you- a law official.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 26 Jun 2011 23:05 #18

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The SPCA could probably give you the proper authority to report to. They don't have any legal jurisdiction unless they decide to bring a lawsuit against the police dept. In Virginia, the Department of Agriculture has a humane division and they have considerable authority to handle these cases. You might check with the Department of Agriculture in your state.

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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 26 Jun 2011 23:23 #19

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reillyshoe wrote:
Doesn't a police officer have an obligation to uphold the law? If the horse is not getting appropriate care you should report them (the police department) to the SPCA.
I would say that no veterinary diagnostics on a horse that is in pain and lying down would qualify. But now we are asking advice of you- a law official.

This will be their arguement....

Was seen by a Vet who didn't suggest x-rays,,,,,,,,(could have asked for them i'm sure)

Farrier probably has not asked for x-rays,,,,,,,(I've asked questions about this horse but tried not to overstep my boundaries. My next step will be to ask if he will ask the LT for x-rays because in 4 months the horse is still lame)

Also I'm struggling financially and not trying to rock the boat with this vindictive man. As a part timer I don't have any job security.


Basically it boils down to me resenting that the City balks on spending money, and I don't think the current shoeing method is working but I don't want to **** David off. Rock in a hard place.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 26 Jun 2011 23:32 #20

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It sounds to me that your issue should be with the veterinarian. Why not ask him/her about it? Has the Police Dept declined any requested care for the horse? Unless the vet left with a comment like "call me if he doesn't improve".
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 27 Jun 2011 00:51 #21

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Don't know who your vet is down there, but Albert Corte is a good vet in Fairhope. I used to live in Point Clear.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 27 Jun 2011 01:30 #22

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Rick Talbert wrote:
Don't know who your vet is down there, but Albert Corte is a good vet in Fairhope. I used to live in Point Clear.

lol, Albert Corte is the attending Vet. Maybe I should just give him a personal call to let him know the updates.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 27 Jun 2011 01:40 #23

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Corte is a good vet.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 27 Jun 2011 01:52 #24

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Rick Talbert wrote:
Corte is a good vet.

Yeah, he is old school. Probably why no mention of rads.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 27 Jun 2011 02:19 #25

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He has been around a long time. You may be right. Or the city budget may be part of the reason. The farrier SHOULD be able to see what needs to be done.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 29 Jun 2011 01:40 #26

It's pretty obvious even from the pictures what needs to be done here and a crying shame that the farrier working on this horse "needs" radiographs to be able to "see" that what needs to be done TO HELP THE POOR HORSE. I'm sorry but passing the blame around for not having x-rays done is just absolutely ridiculous. Amen to what Red said. No grooving needed, just PROPER hoof care.

What is on this horse isn't helping and in fact, could be a big part of the problem.

Is this your "Mentor", Kim? My advice is to find someone who shoes correctly and beg, borrow and maybe even steal to spend as much time with them as you possibly can. Sure, nail line, foot and shoe finish are all important, but if you can't place a shoe properly under the boney column, it's all a moot point.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 29 Jun 2011 15:39 #27

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Well Ms. Apprentice (cool name play) I did state that he and I were not in aggreement over this one horse. But sometimes I feel like who am I fresh outta school to argue with his decades of experience. He re-shod the horse yesterday from what I've been told but my LT is here at the moment so I'll have to wait to snap photos.

The coffin bone is penetrating with abscess present and the Vet is coming for a consult with the LT tomorrow. I'm praying something better will come of this now.

Edited to add that the feet are wrapped so no new pics for now. Horse is standing in his stall when he was usually laying so that is an improvement.
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 30 Jun 2011 23:31 #28

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removed this post to avoid hard feelings
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 01 Jul 2011 02:57 #29

And so what are your thoughts on this most recent "reset", Ms. Turner?

I'm biting my tongue.

But it hurts

A LOT......
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RE:Subcorneal Groove? 01 Jul 2011 04:01 #30

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And so what are your thoughts on this most recent "reset", Ms. Turner?

I'm biting my tongue.

But it hurts

A LOT......

just stop before you draw blood. lol

I think they need rads, the heels need to come down and the foot wedged to relieve that pull on the DDFT. Also some IM in the caudal half for support. I'm not sure if the frog support is really helping. I'd opt for a frog support pad instead of this heartbar if it is helping. Just open up the front to keep the abscess draining.

I am glad that he brought the toe back and made access for the abscess to drain from the bottom and front.

Anyone else's thoughts? Am I on track or off base?
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