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TOPIC: Clog X Frog Support shoe !

Clog X Frog Support shoe ! 23 Jun 2011 01:52 #1

What do you prefer to use in foundered horses? Clogs or shoes with frog support (heartbar shoe, Myron MacLane pads, etc ...)?

I think clog is great for comfort, but it's not good to do a repositioning of the third phalanx. With use of the shoe or heartbar Myron MacLane is possible to do a better repositioning because the distortion of the wall is less than with the use of the clog. What do you think about?

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RE:Clog X Frog Support shoe ! 23 Jun 2011 03:24 #2

lol as with everything else that involves horseshoeing "it depends", "each horse/foot is different", etc etc.

i think that each time we find something that works on one horse, then try it on another, the chances are still 50% that it will work.

i kind of like a reverse shoe, with a soft pour pad that is stepped in the toe to relieve yet protect the toe area, and then resection all the distorted wall in the toe (also opening any pockets of gas in the foot) and then equicasting the foot for stability.

muscle relaxers and very very soft plush bedding also seem to help relieve strain on the DDFT allowing the coffin bone to settle at a correct angle.

lol of course that works SOMETIMES as well... just my 2 cents
Justin Richardson
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RE:Clog X Frog Support shoe ! 23 Jun 2011 04:02 #3

  • Joey Aczon
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I prefer a shoe with frog support. Worst case scenario you can bolt a clog to the bottom. LOL

Did you make that shoe Ricardo? Nice job!
Joey Aczon

Over-specialize and breed in weakness... It's slow death. :cool:

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RE:Clog X Frog Support shoe ! 23 Jun 2011 19:51 #4

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well are we talking acute or chronic?...if im called to a acute case i will have the owners give bute 2-4g a day for a min of a week to help with inflammation and pain and no turn out..the horse must be stalled so the horse is not trying to walk around tearing things up even more i also elevate the heels in some way most of the time i will try to get a ultimate on the horse to relive the pulling forces of the ddft and leave the horse in them till it can stand for something i can glue or nail on..but like was said earlier not all horse can be treated the same...i have done the clogs and heart bars and the heart bar pads with IM..but most resent i have done the rockers shoes and had a lot better response with the rockers then with anything else... i believe it has to do with easing the break over and the pulling forces of the ddft...and on chronic cases it just depends on the horse and how bad the hooves look as to how i approach them but i think x-rays are a must in both situations that way you really know what your dealing with and not giving false hope..
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RE:Clog X Frog Support shoe ! 23 Jun 2011 22:21 #5

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In my opinion, there is not debate. The clog is for acute only,when you do not nail or hit the hoof. If the founder is cronic,the clog is a thing useless.
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RE:Clog X Frog Support shoe ! 23 Jun 2011 22:29 #6

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As Gabino says.....hard work nailing on one in that much pain...

Even before the clog there are other quicker methods for first support ..

Looking at tha two feet I must say that the dorsal coronary band seems less dipped down with the clog ...this could be a sign of a better support system ...or just that the other hoof is worse .
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RE:Clog X Frog Support shoe ! 24 Jun 2011 00:16 #7

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I use Myron McLane pads when a wedge is needed, heart bar when it's not, and clogs when nailing is impossible due to pain. Soft Ride boots with the laminitis inserts are nice, too, for temporary support. I don't like pour-ins because they soften the soles and if the horse is going to abscess I want accessibility.
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RE:Clog X Frog Support shoe ! 25 Jun 2011 20:23 #8

Hi Friends

I would like to explain the reason for this post. It is here in Brazil that never clogs used, then we have no experience with its use. So every opinion is welcome.
I want to know its pros and cons. ;)

Ricardo Moraes
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RE:Clog X Frog Support shoe ! 26 Jun 2011 23:46 #9

Joey Aczon wrote:
I prefer a shoe with frog support. Worst case scenario you can bolt a clog to the bottom. LOL

Did you make that shoe Ricardo? Nice job!

Yes, Joey I made this horseshoe. Thanks!

Ricardo Moraes
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