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Need some help 17 May 2011 01:30 #1

Hey guys,

So I know I have had it pretty dang easy as a farrier since I have worked for 2 big barns that have pretty high end cuttin horses so I dont see a lot of poor maintenance cases but... I took an outside customer and she has a bunch but this is one I could use some help with. This is how I met the horse can yall give me some ideas of what you would do for her. She is a 7yr old Appy Mare that the owner would like to fix up and show later this yr.

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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 01:42 #2

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High end cutters seem to have more issues than alot of other disciplines.. they are still breeding the hoof off the horses and being smaller and smaller they have more hock problems than others????
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 01:44 #3

Well you are correct, but my point was I can work on them whenever and as often as I need to. Point being I have very few issues or things I havent caused myself... but I would like opinions on what people would do with this Appy case.

J
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 01:45 #4

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There is a slight chance the shoes may be a hair forward on the feet.
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 01:49 #5

You guys are killing me... I guess that means you think you would do nothing but shape up some new shoes and set them back on the hoof. As I said this is how I met the horse. I am shoeing her up tomorrow thought I would start a new thread.

J
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 01:52 #6

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Well, generally when the coronet band is parallel with the ground, there's a good chance you can trim some heel.

When the shoe is sticking out in front of the dish, there's a good chance it needs to be set back some.
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 01:59 #7

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Trim the feet down to as close a normal angle as you can get (HPA). Bring it forward and clean up the wall and get it as straight as you can without thinning the wall clear to the white line. Check your ratio ont he bottom of the foot and try to get at least 50/50 front and back of the widest part of the foot. May need to put some type of breakover into the shoe to get it. Shape up a shoe and fit it properly with some expansion and extension to support the back of the foot. Basic shoeing to start trying to get to a normal foot and then adjust from there.
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so this is what parameter fit is supposed to look like....
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 02:06 #9

Thank you for your answer, this is similar to the path I am taking. I am new to the forum and thought a new thread with some interesting issues would be a way to get to know some folks.

Thanks again

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Trim the feet down to as close a normal angle as you can get (HPA). Bring it forward and clean up the wall and get it as straight as you can without thinning the wall clear to the white line. Check your ratio ont he bottom of the foot and try to get at least 50/50 front and back of the widest part of the foot. May need to put some type of breakover into the shoe to get it. Shape up a shoe and fit it properly with some expansion and extension to support the back of the foot. Basic shoeing to start trying to get to a normal foot and then adjust from there.
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 04:21 #10

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Justacowboy wrote:
You guys are killing me... I guess that means you think you would do nothing but shape up some new shoes and set them back on the hoof.
In the responses given, there are some clues as to what some of us would do.

Personally, I would get the heels back, remove as much of the dorsal wall distortion as pragmatic and build and set a shoe that 'framed' the coffin bone and at a minimum, had a rolled toe, set appropriately.
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 09:24 #11

i would do same as rick mentioned feet will come back well
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 11:49 #12

Rick Burten wrote:
In the responses given, there are some clues as to what some of us would do.

Personally, I would get the heels back, remove as much of the dorsal wall distortion as pragmatic and build and set a shoe that 'framed' the coffin bone and at a minimum, had a rolled toe, set appropriately.

I would have done the same Rick. Great minds think alike! ;)
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 11:53 #13

I would also nail higher up the hoof (1/3) because if that horse pulled shoes, it is going to get nasty. As low as those nails are it would take some hoof with it.
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RE:Need some help 17 May 2011 13:07 #14

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Look at the hair line then follow the wall down the straight path until it hits the stress ring and flairs out. This is where the wall needs to be cleaned back to either in one trim or a couple depending on your ability and the hoof itself.
The distortion is where the first stress ring is and the flair begins.

Trim the heels back.
By bringing the heels backand by cleaning the wall as I described, you will bring the toe back also and the pastern angle will be close to or at a normal angle for this animal.

Make a new pair of shoe's and rocker the toe to relieve stress during break over and to take the already present stress off of the tendons.
Fit and shape the shoe to the foot.
Some do a perimeter fit, others like to set the toe of the shoe under or back of the toe a bit.
I am a perimeter fit person and rockering or beveling the toe will accomplish the same thing as setting the shoe back.
(ease break-over mode).

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