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TOPIC: Rotation and seedy toe

RE:Rotation and seedy toe 30 Jan 2011 07:20 #16

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Just a communication glitch. Wanted to make sure I understood. I think of the "toe" as the area near the tip of P3. Because of the resection the end of the dorsal wall is no longer in that location, so I would refer to that as the dorsal wall, not the toe, just for the purpose of clear communication. I'm trying to understand what you mean when you say toe growth. Are you talking about dorsal wall growing down, or sole growth at toe?
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RE:Rotation and seedy toe 30 Jan 2011 07:24 #17

dorsal wall growing down. There isn't any of that happening though. And not much if any of sole growth at the toe either.
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RE:Rotation and seedy toe 30 Jan 2011 08:00 #18

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You need to get rads. Extensor process may be impinging on blood supply to coronary corium, sunk/rotated coffin bone may be impinging on blood supply to solar corium. If growth is normal for other feet and heel is growing on this foot, but dorsal wall and sole are not, this may be why. Did the vet say that this horse foundered? Get a diagnosis, grade of club if club (from vet) and rads. If the vet tells me he wants a specific shoe, I have 3 choices; use that shoe, let someone else shoe the horse, or convince vet to request other shoe. This sounds like it may not necessarily end well. I would suggest you follow the vets direction, because if you don't, it may come back to bite you. Follow his shoeing directions to the letter while advocating for a (better) diagnosis.
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RE:Rotation and seedy toe 30 Jan 2011 14:35 #19

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Steel N Sole wrote:
... Mustang - See here is where is gets tricky as I am employed by the operation and go there twice a week to do some shoeing and they buy the shoes, nails, rasps, propane, etc.etc. and I get paid hourly for my labour. It is a non profit organization so I do what I can.

Lack of pics and rads leave only generalized thoughts on any potential solutions and BoxnSafe has talked to those points.

Not to derail the specifics of the problem animal, but I'm curious about this "operation". Have never heard of a farrier taking on a 40 horse barn where "they" buy all of the supplies and tools. Unless they maintain a complete stock similar to what any farrier would carry, it seems your protocol options would be limited to materials/tools on hand. Is this correct? Do they provide barshoes? Pads? Packing/Support product? Bar stock? An anvil and forge? Product and tool availability may limit your protocol options for any given situation.

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RE:Rotation and seedy toe 31 Jan 2011 03:41 #20

Well the forge and anvil are mine and the propane tank is as well. I also own various tools as I do more farrier work than just this barn. It is at a kids camp that I believe in what they are doing and it works out to a good deal for me. I actually pick up shoes by the case and have all the shoes I need for the horses. Takes me about 2months to go through a case of 5 fronts Breakaways, about 3 months for some 4 fronts...and there are 2 fronts and hinds all the way to 8 fronts and 2 draft horses that get fronts a Belgian and a Clydesdale/TB cross. They bought the equi pak, pads if they are needed, basically all the 'disposable' type things they buy as well. Once my forge needs new firebrick they will buy that as well.
I talked to the manager today and it was decided that the vet will come out for some rads and more discussion. So once those are done I'll see if I can get ahold of them and post them.
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