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Pictures- tear them apart please!!! 21 Jul 2010 06:23 #1

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The story is a draft cross (1500lbs) broke into the feed room. People are in a bind for cash so no X rays were taken. They called me in blind and basically the vet dictated and I followed. Don't go easy don't be nice, I'm here to learn. This is my first founder case. The horse did show improvement a day later.


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RE:Pictures- tear them apart please!!! 21 Jul 2010 09:25 #2

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I would say be careful rasping away too much toe until there is evidence of rotation. The breakover of the bankrobbers helps so you could of left some of the wall on until it gets worst. The problem would be that you weaken the wall connection at the toe by doing that so soon? I use a frog support pad..ie Myron McClain or Castle brand. I don't like a full pad , it softens up the sole too much IMO? Good Luck hopefully you caught it in time?
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RE:Pictures- tear them apart please!!! 21 Jul 2010 11:09 #3

Gary Hill wrote:
I would say be careful rasping away too much toe until there is evidence of rotation. The breakover of the bankrobbers helps so you could of left some of the wall on until it gets worst. The problem would be that you weaken the wall connection at the toe by doing that so soon? I use a frog support pad..ie Myron McClain or Castle brand. I don't like a full pad , it softens up the sole too much IMO? Good Luck hopefully you caught it in time?


Ditto on the frog support pad. I use the EDSS brand.
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RE:Pictures- tear them apart please!!! 21 Jul 2010 18:15 #4

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GOOD WORK !
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Not sure if this is the right way to put it ,but if there is evidence of lots of heel first footing then I would roll the heel/ bar to ease that ...,with some ground around here I would not open toe it ,but build an extrem float in that area.
bigger horses sometime also need a Plate welded in for support the back of the hoof , because those pads get sort of soft...
Only thought from a quick look at the pictures..
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RE:Pictures- tear them apart please!!! 21 Jul 2010 22:43 #5

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It's a good shoeing for lamennes. The frog support can be dangerous when don't have radiographs.
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RE:Pictures- tear them apart please!!! 21 Jul 2010 22:56 #6

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The best part about the frog pads is that they do give and are softer than a steel heartbar. I agree that I want x-rays but the world I live and work in...it don't happen often, plus I find the problem before a Vet is even called?? In the beginning most any type of frog support has good results if it is no more than a 4X4 rolled and taped, Lilly pads, styrofoam, or the frog support pads? Timeing is everything when it comes to laminitis,IMO.
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RE:Pictures- tear them apart please!!! 22 Jul 2010 01:51 #7

Personally I don't like wedging foundered horses. At least that looks like a wedge. Don't like pointing the tip of P3 down. I don't know how much a guy can do with a Vet dictating. Play the cards your dealt. Go with your gut on what to do.
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RE:Pictures- tear them apart please!!! 24 Jul 2010 03:14 #8

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Thanks guys I'll start looking into the frog support. I thought it was weird that the vet recomended the 2 degree wedge also, but it was my first case so I wasnt confident enough to hold my ground, hopefully i can change that. Thanks a bunch.
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