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mechanical founder 07 May 2010 21:48 #1

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run into something today I had not seen before. A "higher power" said mechanical founder. I thought it was interesting to see.

http://horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=298&pictureid=3925
horse seems sound so he is still barefoot
http://horseshoes.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=298&pictureid=3926
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RE:mechanical founder 07 May 2010 22:00 #2

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Hoof Worm hit again..:D

Looks like abscess and neglected hoof from here....
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RE:mechanical founder 07 May 2010 23:35 #3

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I saw abunch of feet look like that this past winter. Too much rain brought out the "worms" and abcesses ran amuck! :D Chad is this horse lame? IMO, IF this was founder of any source, I wouldn't have carved this sole like you did???
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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 01:19 #4

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Gary Hill wrote:
I saw abunch of feet look like that this past winter. Too much rain brought out the "worms" and abcesses ran amuck! :D Chad is this horse lame? IMO, IF this was founder of any source, I wouldn't have carved this sole like you did???


horse is sound, just neglected and gets roped on everynight. My first thought was an abcess also, but there were no signs of fever in the foot or anything else. I called and asked someone else, and that is the answer I got and it made sense to me. I trimmed about 2in of retained sole out, trying to get to some attachment. There is a brand new sole under what is left, that is why I quit pairing to leave some foot mass for the horse to walk on.
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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 09:43 #5

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Sole retention ,what we call a double sole ....sure will show up next trim...
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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 10:38 #6

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Ray_Knightley wrote:
Sole retention ,what we call a double sole ....sure will show up next trim...

showed up on this trim
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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 12:19 #7

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it appears to be more of an abcess and corn from not being properly loaded correctly, and neglect from being left to long betweeen trims/shoeing

the wet weather will also produce retained sole and peel out when ready

with mechanical founder, there would be more problems in the laminia than what appears in your photo

if that is what your "higher source" determines

who am I to argue;)

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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 13:44 #8

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Rather than mechanical founder, that looks like the aftermath of a massive sub-solar abscess that evidently vented of its own volitiopn and without incident. All that retained sole was helping protect the new/live sole beneath it.
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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 15:37 #9

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Rick Burten wrote:
Rather than mechanical founder, that looks like the aftermath of a massive sub-solar abscess that evidently vented of its own volitiopn and without incident. All that retained sole was helping protect the new/live sole beneath it.



wouldn't the horse have been lame with an abscess of this magnitude?
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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 16:54 #10

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Most likely...

:rolleyes: Would the owners have noticed??
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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 17:04 #11

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Thomas_Ride&Drive wrote:
Most likely...

:rolleyes: Would the owners have noticed??

Yup, horse is on the trailer every weekend;)
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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 21:07 #12

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Chad, it falls under Ricks ole saying, "It Depends".:D Horses are funny creatures, some get a small scratch and it turns into a full blown infection? The horse next to it gets the same scratch and nothing happens to it at all? Same goes for abcesses, I have cut into some feet and found terrible tracks and the horse never took a bad step, and another horse has a small pinhole and is dead lame? Go figure!?:confused::cool:
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RE:mechanical founder 08 May 2010 21:16 #13

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chad rice-horse is sound, just neglected and gets roped on everynight
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Is it the foot that is the "lead" or "rolled back upon foot"? if so, it's mechanical founder and neglect. Seen the same in pulling horses and constant pawers; both types were neglected.
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