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RE:Draft Founder 13 Oct 2009 22:08 #16

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You can always bandage a clog in place using elasticon or the like.

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RE:Draft Founder 13 Oct 2009 23:05 #17

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if using elasticon or elastoplast or any of those type of bandages be damned sure to keep it off the hair line.
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RE:Draft Founder 14 Oct 2009 00:49 #18

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Patty
if you was ballpark guessing what would you say it cost the owner over a years time to do what was right for that horse... i think alot of owners dont know what it would cost before saying lets save the horse then after awhile it seems the horse is the one that is short changed in the end...so just a ballpark guess what would you say...?? to give owners reading a idea of cost in case they find them self in this same deal??
Rough Ball park I would have to say ten to fifteen thousand to the vets and fariers, not including the owners nursing ,extra bedding, time etc. And of course all that with no guarantees.

As to the sole abscesses, the vets I have worked with on some pretty bad ones do not treat if it is just sticky brown serum but not pus. The big mare I mentioned with the osteo was treated from the front, at the sole wall junction in the toe with a partial resection , with the clog on.
And Rick hit on something.... maybe a clog held on with cast material. ??
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RE:Draft Founder 14 Oct 2009 10:45 #19

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Take a look at Ric Redden's video clip for taping on his ultimates. It would work well for taping on a clog and keep the clog on as well as protecting the heels and coronet band. I (nor Redden) would recommend an Ultimate for this horse, the clog would be appropriate. Remove the wall flares and the bar flares before application. The flared bars are the cause of the problem occurring under them. You can add a DalRic cuff on top of the clog to help keep it on and use 1/2 inch metal scres through the cuff to help keep it on. Change the wrap daily or every other day until the drainage subsides and then change less frequently. Keep the horse stalled and make sure the diet is appropriate, many drafts are limited in their protein intake resulting in poor hoof quality. Interesting case.

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RE:Draft Founder 14 Oct 2009 21:19 #20

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Thanks Doc for the tip I will check it out and to everyone else for the great Ideas. He is on the books for Monday. I will keep you posted.
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RE:Draft Founder 14 Oct 2009 22:06 #21

Last year I Made size 10 clogs for a massive foundered percheron. I found that rather than use my usual protocol (which consists of 2 screws at the toe quarters screws adjacent to the heels and wraping with equicast) On this very large foot I was able to just use teflon coated screws direct into the clog at various points on the foot.

One note of caution set your "clutch" on a very low setting or if you dont have a clutch on your drill slowly drive the screw untill it just makes contact with the hoofwall. Carefully observe the horse an if he is uncomfortable with a screw back it out a bit.
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RE:Draft Founder 14 Oct 2009 22:27 #22

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Just a little too close for comfort to what this one looked like:

http://www.horseshoes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3322

Post 64, 72 and 74 shows the mess we were dealing with and including x rays.

It's a long and difficult journey attempting to deal with this sort of disaster.

The owners need to get all that dirt off the foot when there's so much open flesh and bone so close. They've got to start adopting clean procedures for managing that foot.
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RE:Draft Founder 15 Oct 2009 15:09 #23

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daveyireland wrote:
but what is a distal limb perfusion?

Davey,
It used when you administer drugs to a specific area (the distal limb) via IV. It is essentially when a tourniquet is applied above the area (below the knee) you wish to treat to isolate the blood flow (and drugs) from entering other parts the body so you can considerate and regulate the treatment to the distal limb. This lets you target the specific region and use more specific drugs. Someone please correct me if this is not correct.
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RE:Draft Founder 15 Oct 2009 16:56 #24

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Thomas, full name please at end of posts.

Josh, you've been asked nicely a few times already. Please either play by the same rules, or don't post in the FHF forums. Your choice.

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RE:Draft Founder 16 Oct 2009 01:34 #25

Cyber Farrier wrote:
Thomas, full name please at end of posts.

Josh, you've been asked nicely a few times already. Please either play by the same rules, or don't post in the FHF forums. Your choice.

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Baron,i know you did this new rule on acount of mostly me.You push josh to post his real name? Would you like it better if he left? This isn't a perfect world~
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RE:Draft Founder 16 Oct 2009 01:39 #26

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Jim;
I will be in Tunbridge on Sat and maybe on Sunday.
If the draft is close and you have the time i'd like to see what you've done.

my 2 cents worth ;)
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RE:Draft Founder 16 Oct 2009 02:19 #27

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Just passin through~ wrote:
Baron,i know you did this new rule on acount of mostly me.

You think way too much of yourself. Matter of fact, I haven't given you any thought in months. But just so you won't wonder: This had nothing to do with you.
You push josh to post his real name?

I'm not "pushing" anyone. The rule is now that everyone either uses their real full name as their screen name, or signs their real full name at the end of every FHF post. You don't like it, don't post in the FHF forums. Clear enough?
Would you like it better if he left?

Personally, I'd rather he stay. Everyone's participation is always encouraged. The choice is his. And yours. Play by the rules, or don't play.
This isn't a perfect world~

True. But that bit of philosophy has nothing to do with signing your name at the end of your posts.

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RE:Draft Founder 16 Oct 2009 18:38 #28

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Nice one for the explanation josh.
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RE:Draft Founder 16 Oct 2009 19:02 #29

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Cyber Farrier wrote:
Thomas, full name please at end of posts.

Baron
When did that happen? I must have missed it.

My full contact details are on my web site but I've attempted to correct my footer and hope it works now.

How comes the posts above me aren't complying with those rules?
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RE:Draft Founder 20 Oct 2009 00:09 #30

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Well I did go glue a shoe on my Shire friend today. Alot of factors went into our decision to go with a Series 3 cuff to a shoe and a equipac fill in the back of the foot with a treatment window for the wound site. Aside from simplicity. this is a huge horse and I did not want the owner to have to hold up his foot while removing 3 or 4 bolts on a hospital plate. I had visions of a half unbolted plate swinging around as he decided to put his foot down. They did order up their own Hoof Jack cradle for dressing changes after they saw mine.

It was 28 degrees when I left the house and although it was nice and sunny in my work place I thought alittle extra sun would not hurt the cure process.

The finished shoe was a Kerk 8 with 2 series 3 cuffs fitted up. I used a size 1 medium cuff with one cuff on each side of the draft shoe. I did drill a couple of extra stud holes and went with a half dozen rivets just to back up the glue bond since this is the heaviest horse I have glued up.
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