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TOPIC: Is it worth it to go on??

Is it worth it to go on?? 16 Jul 2009 18:51 #1

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This horse came to me about one and half years back..
She had founderd as I was told because of club feet that where worked on as a foal ,by a vet who glued toe exstentions and caursed a machanical founder,after this the shoeing /glueing was carried out from theer on it got worse; nothing stayed on ..
I sadly do not have picture but as i got her the pedal bone was much lower than the wall itself ..we made good prossess slowly and at times had a very good movement going on with gallops and moving freely.and hope insight.:o

Now I got the owner to make Xrays ..and am not sure what has happend but the left seems to be off and the right has been on for a long time...

My Question at this point would you make a new start ,now knowing what is going on ...Or just stop and have the girl put down..
The vet that started the whole mess likes to dabble in glue ons ...he thinks the horse has no chance..and I sould say what we should do next...:eek:

All thoughts please!!!!
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RE:Is it worth it to go on?? 16 Jul 2009 19:08 #2

Whether it's worth it or not nobody knows. But if you feel comfortable in doing so reread a bunch of threads in this section.

Pretty helpfull stuff ;) Other have posted as well on cases like these, different approaches but may help as well if you don't like my approach.

http://www.horseshoes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10383



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RE:Is it worth it to go on?? 16 Jul 2009 19:18 #3

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Ronald Aalders wrote:
Whether it's worth it or not nobody knows. But if you feel comfortable in doing so reread a bunch of threads in this section.

Pretty helpfull stuff ;) Other have posted as well on cases like these, different approaches but may help as well if you don't like my approach.

http://www.horseshoes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=10383



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Thanks Ron ...I meet the vet tomorrow morning .
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RE:Is it worth it to go on?? 17 Jul 2009 14:21 #4

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Dr.Myers would be the best "second opinion" for this, but I see a lot of permanent remodelling in the solar margin of the coffin bones and a lot of distal descent of the bone inside the capsule. (the vet did not mark the hairlines, but it is sort of visible on these digital rads).So in my experience working with vets treating a lot of founder cases, the hope for recovering to useful soundness would be very limited. Whatever choices are made, the owners must be realistic that this mare will likely never be much more than a pet.
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RE:Is it worth it to go on?? 17 Jul 2009 17:47 #5

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Thanks for the answer..The Vet Gave me what is called the black peter here..
I sould say what goes on from here,,,
I spent the whole day working out the best way to tell the woman ...
well I got to the horse and it is standing in the stall with no signs of pain or anything ...and no pain killers at all..
We need to get the hooves cleaned up alot of WLD going on ...
The sole is alot thicker than it looks ,there is a drawing pin at the point of the frog LF which makes the whole thing look different ,the sole is that which has taken so much work to here..and it is solid and looks the best ever..
So we will make a go of it ..I only shod the one hoof today and will shave the other on monday...
The lady would like to ride at least a little :rolleyes:oneday...

Please any more thoughts are very welcome....cartilage???something going on there ...the P3 was outside as i started...sure they had to support everything (is that possible)
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RE:Is it worth it to go on?? 26 Jul 2009 17:29 #6

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The ossification of the collateral cartilages is due to the chronic inflammation. I will not make this prediction for this horse, but my farrier friend in Canmada has his brother's barrel horse with worse hooves than these competing in barrels successfully.
That said, these are difficult cases and the whole horse needs review to get the diet and exercise program worked out as well as a proper trim and shoe application.

M. W. Myers, D.V.M.
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RE:Is it worth it to go on?? 26 Jul 2009 18:02 #7

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mwmyersdvm wrote:
The ossification of the collateral cartilages is due to the chronic inflammation. I will not make this prediction for this horse, but my farrier friend in Canmada has his brother's barrel horse with worse hooves than these competing in barrels successfully.
That said, these are difficult cases and the whole horse needs review to get the diet and exercise program worked out as well as a proper trim and shoe application.

M. W. Myers, D.V.M.

Thanks very much for your time ...I will post pictures after the next visit thanks!!
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