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RE:Botox for laminitis 25 Dec 2009 12:48 #31

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I’ve been very skeptical about the value of tenotomy. Until this last fall when I saw Dr. Amy Rucker present a couple times. She has before and after venograms that show dramatic improvements in blood flow in the toe region immediately after tenotomy. The amount of blood supply in a rotated/sunken foot has already been proven to be a good prognostic indicator. Seeing this change so quickly after tenotomy has me rethinking the value of the procedure.

That said, I DO wish that everything else, including changes in diet and proper trim/support be done first before proceeding to cutting.
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RE:Botox for laminitis 25 Dec 2009 15:35 #32

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Denise Mc - this was a case done locally here in Texas with Dr. Ric Redden as a consultant during the process. I wish I had had help and been able to take a series of pictures during the course of the project but that wasn't an option at the time. Sole depth changed as P3 returned to a "0" angle after the surgery, so in reality no growth occurred at that time, just P3 moving upwards.
The last 1.5" of the heels were brought back to the dimples of the central sulcus and a parallel plane was sought with the ground surface of the shoe from that point forward. Venograms were done prior to and immediately after surgery and it was amazing to see the increase in blood flow throughout the foot. Eight weeks post surgery the mare returned to barefoot and remains the same today, which is 15 months at this time. About 2 months ago she exhibited discomfort and it was determined that the DDF most probably had re-attached to the SSF at one or both points where the tendon was severed. She was put in Soft-Ride boots with a laminitic wedge insert and is quite comfortable, as of last week, due to the elevation.

The other foot sank but maintained perfect HPA. The tendon was also cut and a tenotomy rail shoe was applied. That foot has presented no problem but is also in a Soft-Ride.

She is a 28 y/o arabian 3 day eventer now retired, and has hoof pair asymmetry.
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RE:Botox for laminitis 25 Dec 2009 16:48 #33

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Donnie Walker wrote:
The other foot sank but maintained perfect HPA. The tendon was also cut and a tenotomy rail shoe was applied.
Donnie,

What was the thinking/reasoning behind the tenotomy on this leg? I'm interested because since the HPA was in place, I don't see what purpose a tenotomy would serve.

Rick
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RE:Botox for laminitis 25 Dec 2009 18:24 #34

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Rick Burten wrote:
Donnie,

What was the thinking/reasoning behind the tenotomy on this leg? I'm interested because since the HPA was in place, I don't see what purpose a tenotomy would serve.

Rick

I should have said that P1, 2 & 3 were in alignment but there was capsular rotation. P3 almost penetrated. Sorry for the mix up.
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RE:Botox for laminitis 26 Dec 2009 00:55 #35

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Donney or rick, what was the connective tissues doing in all of this ?2hour !!!!!!:rolleyes: stop blowing the hot air , my butts warm enuff ,conspiracy theory LOL mmmmmmmm how do you spend billions of tax payers money on building & testing rockets to carry war heads ? tell the tax paying American public your going to be the first country to put a man on the moon ,hows that one for a conspiracy theory Rick ;)& are you saying rick that weightlessness doesn't lead to bone density lose ? & are you saying its a conspiracy if NASA funds any type of research that is relevant to there cause,i think you will find the secrecy I'm talking about is more to do with rights to the scientific property & royalties from that research if used in the privet sector.
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RE:Botox for laminitis 26 Dec 2009 01:32 #36

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John,

You are full of Christmas cheer. You might want to lay off the egg nog for a while..........

Rick
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RE:Botox for laminitis 26 Dec 2009 03:40 #37

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Rick Burten wrote:
John,

You are full of Christmas cheer. You might want to lay off the egg nog for a while..........

Rick
Have a good holiday season Rick, lose the use of this lap top today and am heading back up country in about 1/2'a, no landline or good mobile signal for the computer on the farm so its bye for awhile , but some how i think i not going to be to mist on here by the masses ;) , till when or if , all the best mate :)
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RE:Botox for laminitis 27 Dec 2009 10:50 #38

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I have a club house and open barn and 3 volenteers aka N.A.G.S.

they are not in any pain/ will pass their drug test=clean/ all three are retired rescued show horses

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RE:Botox for laminitis 12 Apr 2010 03:27 #39

I was part of a team three years ago that injected botulinum in to the flexor belly of a laminitic horse. The horse had previously had two tenotomies( metacarpal, and pastern). The first treatment showed no effect. I believe it was six weeks later, we gave the horse another dose. It would be safe to say that something happened, but it did not effect the apparent comfort of the horse. There was however a noticable gait abnormality. I thought we used botulinum c but my memory often fails- it was either A,B,C, or E. Pick one.
The horse had not been vaccinated for botulinum and it was necessary to use an insanely small amount(diluted). This case did not show botulism would be effective for laminitis, but I hear it works quite well on anal sphincters. It is my understanding that Dr. Morrison has used botulinum on multiple cases, and does not think it is promising.
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