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Thoughts here.. 12 Jun 2009 22:18 #1

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I had these sent just now ,by a vet with no other info .I know who it is now....laminitic first time ..as far as i know
The horse is barehoof , and i am sure they want it to stay barehoof ...I would put shoes on fast ..what are your thoughs ..
Patty please draw lines..
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RE:Thoughts here.. 12 Jun 2009 22:33 #2

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Hi Ray,

The left shows better phalangeal allignment but more rotation and less sole under p3, especially at the tip of p3.

I'd leave all the sole intact, remove some of the distal dorsal wall from the top, and figure out a way to get some support(SoleGuard?) on the bottom of the feet.

I suppose boots/pads could be an option though like you, I prefer shoes/pads/mechanical support as necessary.

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RE:Thoughts here.. 12 Jun 2009 22:37 #3

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Would they go with glue on cuffs. Then work on the shoes. Is that poly do you think that they've xrayed it on?
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RE:Thoughts here.. 13 Jun 2009 08:00 #4

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Thank you both!

As the horse came i took NB off ..they are not really against shoes as such ..
They have also had glue ons in a case years back ...
I am not sure it seems that they are standing on rubber mats ..
The vet here in question tends to do nothing for two weeks ..they do have deep sand areana which helps or is just their luck..

i will see the horse this week ..
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RE:Thoughts here.. 14 Jun 2009 02:17 #5

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I Would get some kind of immediate support under P3 ,set behind the solar margin to protect the circumflex artery . Maybe boots with foam inserts, taped on Styrofoam or just high density foam pads fit behind the frog apex.
The sinking looks significant ,the sole is quite thin and therefore if this were a case referred to me I would prefer a supportive shoeing package of some type as soon as the horse is at a pain level low enough to get him shod without drugs.

Clogs or a similar package made from two stacked double nail pads are one good option. It is pretty easy to do and given that they are plastic, maybe the owners would not be offended by the thought of shoes. I nail one double nail pad right on the foot, and add another smaller one on the bottom to ease breakover and take leverage off the hoofwall when he moves around .
If you use a "D.N.P. package" be sure to rout or grind out an area of sole relief in the nailed on pad under the tip of the coffin bone.
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RE:Thoughts here.. 14 Jun 2009 08:18 #6

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calshoer wrote:
I Would get some kind of immediate support under P3 ,set behind the solar margin to protect the circumflex artery . Maybe boots with foam inserts, taped on Styrofoam or just high density foam pads fit behind the frog apex.
The sinking looks significant ,the sole is quite thin and therefore if this were a case referred to me I would prefer a supportive shoeing package of some type as soon as the horse is at a pain level low enough to get him shod without drugs.

Clogs or a similar package made from two stacked double nail pads are one good option. It is pretty easy to do and given that they are plastic, maybe the owners would not be offended by the thought of shoes. I nail one double nail pad right on the foot, and add another smaller one on the bottom to ease breakover and take leverage off the hoofwall when he moves around .
If you use a "D.N.P. package" be sure to rout or grind out an area of sole relief in the nailed on pad under the tip of the coffin bone.


Thanks Patty for a great answer ...I have also the feeling the owners and vet are a little relaxed on this one ..I will call them in the morning..
Do you have a link and easy print out of the styrofoam first aid ,I want to give some vets here that info as the seem to be very relaxed on first aid,or even getting a farrier in as soon as possible.
regards.
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RE:Thoughts here.. 14 Jun 2009 13:56 #7

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Usre construction grade foam. Over here it is the blue (or pink stuff ) 2" thick if you can find it, 1.5" will work . Styrofoam guide : http://www.hopeforsoundness.com/techsupport/instguides/styrofoamguide.htm
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RE:Thoughts here.. 14 Jun 2009 14:07 #8

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That it thanks!!
Would it be any problem if I translat it into German and print it off??
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