Joey Aczon;160928 wrote: I would agree with this question/assumption. Holy Cow that's a looooooong toe!

Joey,
Don't you think he has already foundered in this foot?

You invaded live tissue. Was a Vet present or is this not considered practicing Veterinary medicine in TX?

Terry

How so? Are you refering to the leak?

I had to do this all with a knife, she didn't like my dremel, and she doesn't like to keep her foot on the stand. Live tissue was her choice not mine.

...I had to do this all with a knife,...

If you felt the "bone was sinking" why didn't you go with a heartbar?:confused:

Oh so it was the horse's fault that a leak happened.

Thanks,

Terry

As I recall, Chapman and Platt presented a paper at the 1984 AAEP Convention that touched on the subject. Please see http://www.olympus.net/personal/pvd/AAEP.html

mwmyersdvm in gray,

Not to be a 'devil's advocate', but is there actually any proof that a heartbar will stop sinking?

A Dutch computer model study done a few years ago showed that a straight bar and a heart bar gave identical support to minimize sole deformation. The paper was presented at a Bluegrass Lamimitis symposium.

The Austin weatherman uses computer models to predict the weather here in Central Texas, a fact that does not engender a great deal of faith in the accuracy of computer models.

As I recall, Chapman and Platt presented a paper at the 1984 AAEP Convention that touched on the subject. Please see http://www.olympus.net/personal/pvd/AAEP.html

Thank you Tom, interesting read.

My attention was caught by his reference to the casts. Which led my thoughts to many of the hoof boots on the market.

NO WONDER so many horses don't like the "clamping" of certain boots. I've been trying to tell my barefoot compatriots that boots aren't better or always a smarter choice over shoes. My ideas are meeting with much resistance, despite my insistence that I'm keep telling them, I'm not against boots for ALL horses.

I just think people don't recognize issues.

This article gives me more to think about/process.

Again, thank you!

*frustrated grunt* I've been trying to tell you that for going on 2 years now!

That is an awesome job, done with a knife. I thought for sure you'd used a dremel. Kudos.

Baron

Not to be a 'devil's advocate', but is there actually any proof that a heartbar will stop sinking?
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Is this not always the same answer .....SOMETIMES ,sometimes NOT...

Those horses that are standing in soft ground have a better chance ,than those with shoes ,shod for some time ,with a concave sole ...and the vet and farrier are not called straight away..

What I really want to ask is the first aid the most important thing in any one case ...????

The reconstruction when done right and regular shoeing ,with no new case of laminitis almost a walk in the park ......also sometimes,sometimes not...

Good work JOEY,I thought the red stuff was Iodine,nice shoe ,,,more pictures please!

That is a great theoretical treatise, but it does not provide any proof of effectiveness nor does it explain how frog presssure will assist in the cessation of P3 movement in the hoof capsule. The paper even further states that the heart bar should not be used in the true sinker.

The computer model of the hoof did appear to have a better basis in its construction than the weather model However, I am still awaiting the research data to show the benefits of the heart bar.