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TOPIC: Update!! Need some info on this hoof

Update!! Need some info on this hoof 27 May 2009 02:25 #1

I went and trimed this horse today and found this and was wondering if it is white line or seedy toe. I poured iodine in it and then packed it with cotton ball. Any advice would be wonderfull. You can stick a city head 5 nail down in it and it doesn't bother the horse and was a wide gap between the sole and hoof wall. It goes all the way around the toe and toward the heel but only about half the way to heal




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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 27 May 2009 11:04 #2

I can get more pics if that would help lots of views and not comments
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 27 May 2009 12:47 #3

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Looks to me like the horse has had a bout of laminitis and what you are seeing is the disinterdigitated laminae. I don't see any infection, so its not seedy toe, and WLD presents differently that what is pictured.

I'm going to take the leap of faith that this is a 'before' trim photo. I'd like to see some 'after' trim photos as well as some views of the hoof on the ground.

When you take those photos, please have the horse standing squarely(cannon bones vertical] on flat, hard, level ground such as asphalt or concrete.

From the photo, I get the impression that this might be a rather thin soled horse who could be somewhat problematic to correctly trim and still remain barefoot.

Does this horse have any soundness issues, especially right after being trimmed?

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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 27 May 2009 20:58 #4

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This is a foot I dug around in the other day. Had a little seedy toe action, and I chased it up and it died out pretty quick. I got into a hoof wall seperation next to it and dug around eventually to the heel. When I took this picture I could still put my finger in pretty far. One thing I find with any advanced WLD is a very ominous hollow sound when the tools hit the foot. Right or wrong I usually do most of my prospecting with the shoe still on. This one had a very tight four week shoe on and I pulled 3 lat nails and tried to find the extent of the damage. I put a treatment package on it and will shoe it soon. Along with the hollow sound I mentioned The more advanced cases I have worked on are almost always sore after trimming and shoeing even when they are sound in use before and after. From the pic it looks like as Rick pointed out, (big word) Laminae.
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 27 May 2009 23:01 #5

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horseshoe1 wrote:
From the pic it looks like as Rick pointed out, (big word) Laminae.
"Disinterdigitated":) I take full responsibility[and blame] for coining that word several years ago. I just kinda like the sound of it, the way it ties up your tongue, and its descriptive nature. :o:D

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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 27 May 2009 23:16 #6

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Rick Burten wrote:
"Disinterdigitated":) I take full responsibility[and blame] for coining that word several years ago. I just kinda like the sound of it, the way it ties up your tongue, and its descriptive nature. :o:D

Rick

"disinterdigitated" LOL, I love it!:)
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 27 May 2009 23:48 #7

Thanks for the inforamtion guys
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 28 May 2009 01:37 #8

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Rick Burten wrote:
"Disinterdigitated":) I take full responsibility[and blame] for coining that word several years ago. I just kinda like the sound of it, the way it ties up your tongue, and its descriptive nature. :o:D

Rick
I did not go running for my text book although I was a little troubled that such a cool word had escaped me all these years. Glad I did not grind on like I actually knew what it meant. I would submit it to Webster's if I were you.
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 28 May 2009 01:41 #9

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Rick -- a natural sequipedalianist
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The best things about the good old days -- I wasn't good and I wasn't old.

The older I get, the more horses I shoe, the fewer things that I can absolutely, positively fix.
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 28 May 2009 01:56 #10

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Jack Evers wrote:
Rick -- a natural sequipedalianist

From a truly orthogonal thinker.
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 28 May 2009 02:31 #11

I am gonna be going back monday to work on this horse some more. I will get pics of what I am gonna be doing to it.
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 28 May 2009 02:37 #12

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Call me crazy but it looks like there could be some retained sole there.
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 28 May 2009 23:30 #13

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PerformanceHorseshoeing wrote:
Call me crazy but it looks like there could be some retained sole there.

Nick:

Where do you see retained sole?

Hillbilly:

I'm with Rick, if what he is saying is laminitis. I would like to see more pix, dorsal and lateral shots.

What is the horses age, breed, environment, diet, exercise regime?
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 28 May 2009 23:34 #14

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It looks like a foot that will be difficult to gather up on those rocks! :eek:
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RE:Update!! Need some info on this hoof 29 May 2009 03:10 #15

Bill, I think those rocks will eventually gather that foot up, sooner than later , by the looks of it.
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