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'Seedy Toe' This Saturday... 12 Mar 2009 02:31 #1

Well one of the horse's that I trim has WLD. It is right at the toe. Kind of creeped up on me as there was no indication of it in previous trims. The horse is on a 6 week schedule and only once the hooves have been left for 9 weeks.
But I have dug out with my knife a good half way up the hoof wall and there is still a bit more to go. I told the owner that to totally get it all out using a dremmel would be preferred or else I can spend a lengthy time there digging and digging. So she ended up calling her vet out about it, and he dug some and then said that he dug it until everything was solid horn. I got there 2 days after that for the usual trim and it wasn't up to solid horn so I dug more.
Now this brings us to this Saturday. This Saturday the vet will be out there hopefully tranq'ing the mare and dremmeling. The mare is an arab to the fullest and wouldn't take kindly to a dremmel at her hoof without tranq. My question is what should I be prepared with? The rese<tion will be at the toe. I have some sx8's with side clips...some plain ol' Bakers....I have not experienced digging out of the wld to this extreme yet and would like to be prepared.
Any suggestions? I know I have no pictures....but it is just two tracks going up the toe. I think it goes up another 1/4" on the one track. But the other I dug to solid horn as it was 'shorter' than the other track.
Kimberley Tuka
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RE:'Seedy Toe' This Saturday... 12 Mar 2009 13:52 #2

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I really like using rocker toe shoes with clips on seedy toes. I feel the rocker helps add a little support to the opened up hoofwall. Depending on the size of the foot and how far up it goes I might go to a bar shoe to help stabilize further. (Usually on a 0 and up if it goes more than 2/3 of the way up the hoofwall.)

Don't forget your frog support.
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RE:'Seedy Toe' This Saturday... 12 Mar 2009 22:49 #3

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I think it is a good idea to add frog support to your shoeing package if there is going to be a significant resection. It helps prevent the foot from collapsing. What kind if frog support depends on what is most appropriate for the situation and the foot.
Patty Stiller CNBF,CLS
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RE:'Seedy Toe' This Saturday... 13 Mar 2009 01:04 #4

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All good advice. Here is a horse I did in 2004. WLD progressed into a toe crack. Packed groove with playdough (removed with a q-tip) to provided a means to flush the defect and attached an 1/8 inch thick aluminum plate over the crack with Equilox. Simple but effective.
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RE:'Seedy Toe' This Saturday... 13 Mar 2009 18:06 #5

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Hoof wall defects in the area from quarter to quarter are perfect candidates for the Nolan Hoof Plate. You can resect what you need and pack a removable product in any areas you need to treat later. The plate works well as it encompasses more of the hoof than a small patch allowing the wall to function as more of an integral unit as it would if intact. Frog support and good triming and shoeing principles still apply, but you will get better hoof stability and a good solid place to attach a shoe so it will not come off. No package will work if the horse leaves it behind in the pasture.
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RE:'Seedy Toe' This Saturday... 13 Mar 2009 18:15 #6

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jaysanvil wrote:
. Simple but effective.

Works without putting any (read: a lot of) screw holes in the wall (ie: Nolan hoof plate).
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RE:'Seedy Toe' This Saturday... 13 Mar 2009 20:46 #7

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If you are CERTAIN that your resection is absolutely back to good, solid horn, with no live tissue exposed, and I mean ABSOLUTELY, I have have very good luck with this:

Fit a good, wide web shoe with an enhanced breakover or rockered type toe and side clips to the foot. Provide support to the caudal aspect of the foot by whatever means you are comfortable with, ( I like frog support pads/impression material if the hoof tests favorably for it). Be sure your opened up section and where your patch is going to attach are hospital clean........ mix equal parts copper sulfate crystals and one color of the impression material together, then mix the second part of the impression material into your mix..... apply this to the resected area and cover with a carbon fiber / equilox patch extending around the foot at least to your clips.

Everything has to be clean,clean,clean..... did I say you gotta be CERTAIN???

I have had some of these stay on 'till they trim out the bottom. (Trims out a little easier than steel and screws!)

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RE:'Seedy Toe' This Saturday... 13 Mar 2009 20:54 #8

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Actually, the plate is not that difficult to remove as the screws only sink 1/8 to 1/4 inch into the hoof. The extension of the plate around the hoof distributes the stresses over the dorsal surface and around to the quarters so you get a more normal distribution of stresses as the hoof loads. Placing an isolated patch or plate on the hoof isolates this portion of the wall for a difference in load distribution during motion. Other methods will work, but this is my preferred one as it has proven to be far superior to the others I have tried. The horse experiences immediate comfort even with deep and extensive hoof wall cracks.
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RE:'Seedy Toe' This Saturday... 04 May 2009 22:03 #9

I have dealt with seedy toe alot, and what i have found that really works after you clean the creator out and pour a little bit of fermaldahide in the hole, take a nail and work around inside till you feel all cleaned, then take 7% iodine in the hole and then pack the hole with cotton, pack it good, and the cotton will be there when you come back. it works for me. good luck
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