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TOPIC: Inconsistent Lameness

Inconsistent Lameness 24 Nov 2008 23:06 #1

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3rd shoeing of a white line toe resection. The medial pillar was affected as well (previously an acrylic hoof wall pillar was built). Horse has been sound with NB shoes and frog pad. At last reset the frog had developed a very bad case of thrush. As I was carefully clean out the foot and investigating the condition of the frog it began to bleed. Basically all that was left was the internal sensitive frog. (Stable Manager cleaned the foot) shoe reset with (sole pack product) and dental impression. I didn’t was to cause too much frog pressure but, knew I need to treat the foot and provide support.
5 days later was called to check out the horse. Grade 1 lame on foot. But, twice 3 legged when out of stall in AM. Get better as day goes one but still grade 1.
I thought sole pressure so I pulled the shoe and built a medial pillar out of acrylic and rested the shoe. No change. Any ideas??????
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RE:Inconsistent Lameness 24 Nov 2008 23:25 #2

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take it all off and bath the hoof with sugardine or what ever you guys use in the case of absess make a nice thick and suportive bandage and use something that will cure the thrush aswell.....
you have to be really careful useing acrylic or what you call it if you have any bactirial problem close anywhere as it tends to worsen the infected area covering it ,it starts to go inwards as the way out is blocked and it thrives in an air tight enviroment .
If you have checked the pressure aspect ,by ding this you can rule out the lot wait abit gain time and then start again ,,get vet back up if possible and work togeher to get the horse going again..

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RE:Inconsistent Lameness 25 Nov 2008 14:45 #3

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Pictures might help, and/or radiographs too.
But in general, try packing under the pad with ichthammol (or magna paste,a concenrated epsom salt paste) then use a little bit of IM or Equipack JUST over the very rear of the frog, keeping the support off the center of the frog where the most sensitive areas probably are and see if that helps.
It is probably frog pain causing the issue. Also I find that long term use of IM will cause over hydration of the frog, and so if there is enough solid frog to sit down on the back of the pad, (creating it's own support) I use a medicated soft pack material instead , or switch off everty third shoeing or so. Patty
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RE:Inconsistent Lameness 25 Nov 2008 23:47 #4

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I would attempt to locate the area of sensitivity before I attempted to apply any type orthodic.
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RE:Inconsistent Lameness 26 Nov 2008 23:35 #5

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You really should get some radiographs on this horse. Laminitic cases have a way of sneaking up on you when you least expect it.

I have used roller shoes on boots so you can treat the thrush regularly and keep the hoof properly loaded and the breakover well relieved. Setting the roller shoe is key. You have to fit the boot to the hoof and then place the shoe over the COA and mark where to attach the shoe.
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RE:Inconsistent Lameness 30 Nov 2008 07:10 #6

mwmyersdvm wrote:
You really should get some radiographs on this horse. Laminitic cases have a way of sneaking up on you when you least expect it.

I have used roller shoes on boots so you can treat the thrush regularly and keep the hoof properly loaded and the breakover well relieved. Setting the roller shoe is key. You have to fit the boot to the hoof and then place the shoe over the COA and mark where to attach the shoe.
mwmyersdvm a horse with thrush as bad as the op stated i have had horses at grade 2&3 lame from thrush eating holes in the frog and soft sole parts of the hoof i then clean the foot with soap and water dry the foot put thrush buster pack the foot with ichthammol as patty said drill and tap shoe for med plate by second shoeing all is healed with a good frog in place if the op will check the foot or call me to reclean and pack the foot.
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RE:Inconsistent Lameness 05 Dec 2008 09:30 #7

For excellent video's on the detection of lamness and dealings with it visit horsehero.co.uk (or google horse hero lamness) and you can veiw a number fo videos explaining how shoeing affects lamness, hoe lamness is detected and how it is treated, with professional Dr Svend Kold. There are also fabulous How-To videos by britains top riders.
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RE:Inconsistent Lameness 06 Dec 2008 00:43 #8

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I watched the "shoeing and how it affects lameness" video, it took forever to load and it is an OK video for orsr owners but has nothing that would be new to a farrier, and it really has nothing to do with this particular lameness issue.
(Ps if you are not a farrier please post only in the "Farriers helping horse owners" section. :))
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