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bad request error 19 Feb 2012 15:39 #16

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This is the thing I've been chasing now. Very elusive so far, I think it is program side but trying some server changes too.
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Re: bad request error 19 Feb 2012 17:01 #17

Bad Request

Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Size of a request header field exceeds server limit.

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Re: bad request error 19 Feb 2012 17:12 #18

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I know. Just got off with server tech support. They removed this from modsecurity (the firewall on the server) LimitRequestFieldsize 10000. They said this was not a normal setting. I don't think this is going to fix it but anything is worth a try. It seems to me the cookie grows with every item you visit so no matter what it eventually fails. But as browsers limit to 4-5K cookies (I think) I don't know how it hits a server limit before a browser limit. I have requests into the software forums for support to but I think I just have to figure out how to trim the cookie in the code itself. Hack the cookie.php type files for example.
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Re: bad request error 19 Feb 2012 19:24 #19

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Don't whether this helps or not, but I'm getting the error message on Chrome, but not on Firefox.
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Re: bad request error 19 Feb 2012 19:44 #20

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Anthony_Lawrence wrote:
Don't whether this helps or not, but I'm getting the error message on Chrome, but not on Firefox.

I just went to thread after thread and after maybe 20 it hit on firefox. If you change browsers you are changing cookies so that is why it works in one but not the other for you at the moment. I believe it is a server issue (I've already spent days chasing it on the program side), been on tech support with the server host all day. Just sent a new ticket in to there higher level support. Will just keep chasing until we get it fixed where ever the problem turns out to be. In the mean time, just keep deleting the cookie when it blows up.
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"No philosophers so thoroughly comprehend us as dogs and horses." Herman Melville[/color]
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Re: bad request error 19 Feb 2012 22:20 #21

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cyber steve wrote:

I just went to thread after thread and after maybe 20 it hit on firefox. If you change browsers you are changing cookies so that is why it works in one but not the other for you at the moment. I believe it is a server issue (I've already spent days chasing it on the program side), been on tech support with the server host all day. Just sent a new ticket in to there higher level support. Will just keep chasing until we get it fixed where ever the problem turns out to be. In the mean time, just keep deleting the cookie when it blows up.

As I suggested early on, tracking user browser history is the cause of the excess cookie size. The answer appears to exist in storing tracking data in a server side directory versus a client side cookie.

Perhaps this may provide additional insight.

forum.piwik.org/read.php?2,78381

piwik.org/docs/javascript-tracking/

This is an interesting coding problem due a "hidden" side-effect.

To wit; The error is created by the server-side application wherein a cookie is created on the clients computer that subsequently exceeds the Apache server side limit (LimitRequestFieldSize).

Think about that a moment. Once the cookie exceeds the Apache limit, the client can no longer access the website. If that client isn't persistent (uses a different browser; perhaps a different computer; whatever), that client is effectively locked-out of that particular website forever!

They can't see the suggestions/instructions to clear a specific cookie. All they know is that access to all other websites work fine, but your website, from their perspective, is "down"!

Reading other website owners similar complaints, it became apparent that the greater concern was losing clientele and how to get them back. How can you fix a client side problem (e.g. delete/overwrite their cookie for your site) if that client cannot get back into your server? How many customers have you lost and don't know it?

The answer appears to be....

1. Fix the original cookie size problem using the SetCookiePath() scripting.
2. Temporarily set the LimitRequestFieldSize parameter to a maximum value so clients who have not been able to get back in, will be able to do so.
3. Hope those locked-out clients try again.
4. Overwrite those clients cookie with the new data sets.

Cheers,
Mark
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