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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 19 Feb 2012 21:27 #61

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David, Tell the owner to keep the horse away from black permanent markers. I hear they'll make lines like that. But on the other hand, it made it easy to get a 50/50 over the COA. So maybe the mark isn't that bad after all.

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Kim You will have to explain that theory to Tom and I. we have seen it a few times and put it down to black line disease :)
Actually that line isn't anywhere near a plumb line form the COA, but it is pretty close to crossing Duckett's Dot.

Does the shoe look in the right place Tom? actually the black line disease just happened to run across the widest point of the foot, Imagine what are the chances of that!!!
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 19 Feb 2012 23:23 #62

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Bill;

You fall in the category of ignorant patriots. were you there in wwII? if not , then do you think you can have a say about the fight?
What?
Were you there when my ancestors through the tea off the boat into the harbor? If not do you really think you have a say in the price of tea today? Or for that matter how the cost of oil effects electric prices?
:whistle: :huh:
Just curious WHY you would call Master Bills Patriotism into a farrier forum?

I'm going to take a crack at comprehending that Juhani Takanen was more or less saying something to the effect that if you haven't experienced the problem yourself, how are you to act all mighty (patriot), criticize how someone is going through it and then add insult. (the occupy thing - my age generation type thing)

Least that's what I got out of it.
Kayla,
As to not experiencing the problems you are, oh how I wish I had problems like those when I started. Consider your plight and add eight kids and a spouse to feed and clothe to the mix to start. Part of what got me going was Dances' whining about schools not helping with internships (get it? "internships" for his daughter's nautical carrier).

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I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 19 Feb 2012 23:56 #63

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As to not experiencing the problems you are, oh how I wish I had problems like those when I started. Consider your plight and add eight kids and a spouse to feed and clothe to the mix to start. Part of what got me going was Dances' whining about schools not helping with internships (get it? "internships" for his daughter's nautical carrier).

LOL They actually have 2 ships a cargo ship for those on the merchant marine track and a schooner the "Bowdoin" for the small boat folks. And they take cruises for sea time on them. My daughter allie needs time on tugboats and although the academy actually has several tugs they just practice on them. So she must seek an "intership" on a real tug at a real company. Makes it a little harder than just going out for the summer on the academys ship.

It is possible though. Not only did allie get a job with the tug company they also gave her a $4,000 scholarhip for next year. So good for her.
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 20 Feb 2012 00:01 #64

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david a hall wrote:
tbloomer wrote:
david a hall wrote:
MPLdyCop wrote:
David, Tell the owner to keep the horse away from black permanent markers. I hear they'll make lines like that. But on the other hand, it made it easy to get a 50/50 over the COA. So maybe the mark isn't that bad after all.

:evil:


Kim You will have to explain that theory to Tom and I. we have seen it a few times and put it down to black line disease :)
Actually that line isn't anywhere near a plumb line form the COA, but it is pretty close to crossing Duckett's Dot.

Does the shoe look in the right place Tom? actually the black line disease just happened to run across the widest point of the foot, Imagine what are the chances of that!!!
I think the shoe is where it was intended to be, but the "right place" would imply some kind of criteria.

The widest part of the foot could and usually does have quite a range of variation since the hoof wall is often distorted out of symmetry from where it would be if it were dressed so that the widest part of the foot was in line with a plumb line from the center of the coffin joint.

WPOF (wall perimeter) is inherently very unreliable as reference because the external wall is a great distance from the mechanical center of the foot and thus subject to the greatest distortion due to leverage of ground forces and growth of the wall itself moving down and forward. Widest part of coronary band (much closer to the center of the coffin joint) would be a more accurate starting point. But still there is the hoof angle itself that will cause a variation in the A/P location of the plumb line from the COA.



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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 20 Feb 2012 00:31 #65

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Dances with Hooves wrote:
It is possible though. Not only did allie get a job with the tug company they also gave her a $4,000 scholarhip for next year. So good for her.
Dances,
Growing up a Farrier's daughter I'm sure has prepared her well for her chosen path. She's used to hardships.

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I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 20 Feb 2012 11:00 #66

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Dances,
Growing up a Farrier's daughter I'm sure has prepared her well for her chosen path. She's used to hardships.
A real a hardship would be an ice breaker. :side:
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 20 Feb 2012 14:30 #67

Bill Adams wrote:
Growing up a Farrier's daughter I'm sure has prepared her well for her chosen path. She's used to hardships.

Both my daughters learned to shoe and assisted dad for about 3 years each. It was fun working together and I am sure helps them in their current career paths.
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 20 Feb 2012 16:10 #68

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Dances with Hooves wrote:
Bill Adams wrote:
Growing up a Farrier's daughter I'm sure has prepared her well for her chosen path. She's used to hardships.

Both my daughters learned to shoe and assisted dad for about 3 years each. It was fun working together and I am sure helps them in their current career paths.
None of my daughters wanted to help after the first couple times. The boys all had to though. It taught them to work and they found any job is easier and any other boss pays better.
My son Eli is starting his own Farrier business though. My main trick now is to try and keep ahead of him. I'm finding I have to use a lot of physiology as I can't out mussel him now.

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