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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 17 Feb 2012 19:04 #31

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What did you have her doing for you

Nothing yet. we were on day 2 of her second week. Just teaching her how to trim and pull and clinch.

So let me recap, "nothing yet day 2 second week", trimming! and clinching! I bring them n slower than that :)

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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 17 Feb 2012 20:05 #32

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What did you have her doing for you

Nothing yet. we were on day 2 of her second week. Just teaching her how to trim and pull and clinch.

So let me recap, "nothing yet day 2 second week", trimming! and clinching! I bring them n slower than that :)

I did not have her trimming and clinching I was teaching trimming and clinching. What do you do for the first month teach them how to eat lunch and send text messages to their friends.
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 17 Feb 2012 20:29 #33

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Dances with Hooves wrote:
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What did you have her doing for you

Nothing yet. we were on day 2 of her second week. Just teaching her how to trim and pull and clinch.

So let me recap, "nothing yet day 2 second week", trimming! and clinching! I bring them n slower than that :)

I did not have her trimming and clinching I was teaching trimming and clinching. What do you do for the first month teach them how to eat lunch and send text messages to their friends.
First month now! I teach them to take off shoes and clean the feet and make shoes! and most importantly develop some strength. I dont allow phones at work.
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 17 Feb 2012 20:33 #34

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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 17 Feb 2012 20:37 #35

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david a hall wrote:
Youngest apprentices work.

how long has he done David?
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 17 Feb 2012 20:41 #36

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14 months John.
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 17 Feb 2012 20:46 #37

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14 months John.

looks to have a bright future ahead of him
i think we train app much the same way you and i
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 17 Feb 2012 20:52 #38

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14 months John.

looks to have a bright future ahead of him
i think we train app much the same way you and i

Thank you John it means a lot when it comes from yourself. I dont train apprentices to make money or to save labour I do it because I love it and get a kick out of watching someone learn and develop. I love the passion they learn the pride in finish and accuracy, even when they dont achieve it they dont stop chasing it.
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 17 Feb 2012 20:55 #39

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14 months John.

looks to have a bright future ahead of him
i think we train app much the same way you and i

Thank you John it means a lot when it comes from yourself. I dont train apprentices to make money or to save labour I do it because I love it and get a kick out of watching someone learn and develop. I love the passion they learn the pride in finish and accuracy, even when they dont achieve it they dont stop chasing it.



We have the same desire
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 18 Feb 2012 00:15 #40

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Dances with Hooves wrote:
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Sounds like you've been taught to be a good Government Subject, you must have gone to Government Schools.
You don't get into this art for a degree, you do it because it's your life.
You don't need a degree to be the best at this.
If things don't work out for you, you can always go Occupy some place.

Bill dont you think you are a bit out of line here.

Me? Out of line? Oh no, not at all. I was challenging the notion that the degree is so important. I understand about time and money borrowed, but the focus should be the work, not the paper work.

[/quote]Same deal here if Hocking is going to require an internship they should assist in locating same.[/quote]

Didn't you just lose an app because (who would have thought this) the job was sorta hard. Will they send someone out if it's kinda hard to pull well clinched shoes?

[/quote]Let's keep it civil and try and help the young lady out.

Naa. Lets keep it real. If I'm a major problem for someone starting out, their first Mustang is gona send them to Accounting School.

[/quote]As far as not needing farrier school. I could teach my current apprentice everything she needs to be successful. We're thinking of having her attend a farrier course so that when she moves south to FL or Carolina (I am very unsuccessful getting my helpers to stay in maine to be partners in my business they seem to move to warmer climes to pursue their careers). The main reason to go for her will be to have an answer to the question "what school did you attend?"[/quote]

What I would say to the very small minority of clients who asked, was that I went to the worst one in the country, OHS, but was able to learn this anyway.
Two of my sons moved away and got jobs over the phone working for the top HJ Farriers in their areas, one in CT and one in LA. Million dollar horses that were flown all over the country and Europe for shows, and they were given unrequested pay hikes regularly. Never spent a day in a school but many years of helping. Then when they were 10 or so they started nailing and ........

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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 18 Feb 2012 04:53 #41

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Well moving away wouldn't be too hard. I surely don't want to live in michigan / ohio the rest of my life Lol.
I'd like to be able to do that - to just go my own way, and take the time to learn.....but right now I'm just trying to find an apprenticeship as I'm pressed for time. No apprenticeship =/= no degree. Everyone always talks about how my generation is the instant gratification generation....not really - not when everything govt wise is now the same. If I don't do this and soon, then no degree - even though I've done all the class work. 6 months out of school, all my student loans come due which by then if I don't have a good paying job....I'm quite up the creek without the paddle and have nothing to show for it. My backup plan is actually going back to school and finishing up my equine science degree.

Does the apprenticeship have to be local or can it be done somewhere else in the U.S.?

It can be anywhere in the US.
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 18 Feb 2012 05:15 #42

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nvm
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 18 Feb 2012 05:36 #43

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Kayla,

Your school confuses me. I think all they are ttrying to teach you in section one is that shoeing can be hard. Why would they make someone who cannot use a tool properly work without a hoof stand. They do not have the strength or the balance to do so. I would take it away in the third section but that's just me. Actually for me I never take it away.
All of the three degrees have to take shoeing I - though honestly I think they do so to weed out the people who think the degree /shoeing is just going to be a walk in the park. Shoeing I usually has the most people, and most drop out. You have to use the school's tools too which means hoof knives that have probably been there since the beginning of time, dull beat up diamond nippers, and rasps that have been there for years and get beat up daily by the forging classes for hot rasping. They tell us that if you don't learn how to learn the holds in the first place and rely on the hoof stands then you'll never learn. BUT then again by shoeing II + up most people still rely on the hoof stands regardless.

Shoeing II the classes end up being much smaller and then you get your own set of tools - the teachers joke that the most blood is shed on the first day with new rasps and knives, which is probably true.
I think Master Bill, who we all love, is getting to the point that if you do not apprentice in the correct time frame the school can not come and suck the knowledge out of your head.
I went to a trade school and have an equine science degree. When I was done with my trade school I thought I was something special. It turns out the school I went to su ck ed. After a year went by I was just hoping that no one knew I actually went there. And out of my equine science class I think I am one of a handful of people still working with horses.

Bottom line school only teaches you enough to be dangerous. Its how you continue your education after that matters. Go to every clinic you can. Go to barns. If guys won't let you ride along they will let you sit and watch, ask questions. What most guys really want is to know if your gonna stick around. Everyone here has taken on another person. That leaves at the worst time and put them in a jam, that could have been avoided if we would have just never taken on the apprentice in the first place. So its not you that the Farriers dislike. Its the situation. I am not by any means saying you will leave someone in a jam. But guys have heard "wolf " yelled so many times they stop looking to help.

What ever he was trying to get across. It wasn't very helpful.
I understand that what I've learned isn't going to magically disappear and it's not that I don't want to keep learning it's just that I want to finish what I started, and to do so, I have to jump through some hoops along the way, this being one of them.
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 18 Feb 2012 10:36 #44

DwnRvrPony wrote:
It can be anywhere in the US.

Feel free to call me on my cell at 207-713-0813 to set up a time for an initial phone interview. The interview should take about 25-30 minutes. If you have text messaging we can avoid some phone tag and set up the time for the call via text.
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Re: Finding an apprenticeship 18 Feb 2012 14:11 #45

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david a hall wrote:
Youngest apprentices work.
What's that line across the sole for, David?
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Here's the deal. I'm trying to keep it simple.
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