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RE:Certification written test question!! 16 May 2011 03:42 #31

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Ray, that is a far better way to do it, that way you really have to know your stuff, you can't just guess your way through it like you can on a multiple choice. Also, having to verbalise is infinitely harder than just writing it down. These are skills that have to be practiced on top of learning the material.

Chris would give us pop quizzes in the van on the way to shoeing jobs and it's amazing how your brain freezes when put on the spot. The anatomy tests he gave us looked simple on paper, just 12 little questions! -but none of them easy to answer - I write at least a full page for each. It was good prep for the English system, and that's what he models his tests off. One day I aim to get there....

Still, the afa system is a good start. It has it's flaws, but it has it's strengths too, I was glad to have gone through that process. It is only a tiny step, but a worthwhile step and one to encourage every person to do.
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RE:Certification written test question!! 17 May 2011 07:33 #32

Rachael Do you have to be licensed in Australia to shoe....like England? Thanks BL


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RE:Certification written test question!! 17 May 2011 09:01 #33

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No, Bill, you don't. It's more like the American system, you improve on a voluntary basis. There is an apprenticeship system also with a three year course you attend once a month for a few days.

I have done 2 years of the course and hope to get passed through 'recognition of prior learning' this year for the last of it. I am a strong advocate of trade qualifications, so it is frustrating that I never fitted into the correct boxes here.

I was looking at the new UK WCF course on offer last night. Its fantastic and I was like, sign me up! As a non-EU resident it would only cost $7,500 a year to do, plus travel and living expenses! Hi hum....Oh to be wealthy :p

Sorry to take this thread off topic, I will stop waffling now.
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 01:36 #34

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Dhelton wrote:
Whatever the answer is in the study guide, is 9 times out of 10, going to be your correct answer. Learn all the test in Blombachs book, and you will pass it. Dustys book is absolutely no help, IMO!

It wasn't very long ago that you were all about Dusty. Fell out with him too?
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 06:49 #35

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Dont blame Dusty for his teaching!!! The test is a standard and it must be to that level, whether it be correct for the horse or not isnt the issue. Do the test according to their rules then pull the shoes and shoe the horse correctly for what its needs are..:eek::D:cool:
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 06:58 #36

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Circle M Farrier Sevice wrote:
It wasn't very long ago that you were all about Dusty. Fell out with him too?

No! I just think his book is little if any help at all. The flashcards are cool, but, IMO, the book is no help.
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 08:33 #37

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Rachael Kane wrote:
No, Bill, you don't. It's more like the American system, you improve on a voluntary basis. There is an apprenticeship system also with a three year course you attend once a month for a few days.

You do if you want to plate gallopers in your state... mind you, the qual is a bit of a cake walk if you've tacked a few on before. The Aussie CF doesn't sound anything like the AFA CF.

You'd breeze through it.

Why didn't you finish it?
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 10:17 #38

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I fully intend to finish it. In Victoria you have to be an apprentice to enrol. I am not an apprentice so it has been a sticking point in finishing. I already did 2 years in NSW already and have contacted NMIT since I got back as I hear they have an RPL program now (recognition of prior learning). I'd be glad to get my quails here, but I have no intention of plating crazy tbreds.
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 10:21 #39

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Rachael how long have you been at the job?
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 10:25 #40

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Rachael Kane wrote:
but I have no intention of plating crazy tbreds.

Wise lady. :)

...and the humans are even crazier.
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 10:29 #41

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Crazy Tbred:confused:
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 10:48 #42

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Smitty, this will be my 6th year shoeing, but I did it all kind of backwards. Started on heavy breeds and have only just come into thoroughbreds! So I have learned late what most other learn first up, and have a lot of specialist knowledge that others may never have. I still much prefer heavy horses.

I worked with my farrier for a year, then only did my own 6 for the next year or so. I realized I needed to do heaps more if I wanted to improve and was not comfortable advertising services without qualifications. So I enrolled in the training course for the next 2 years and became frustrated with the teaching (which I now realize in part was just my own journey in the forge and probably could not have been any other way :o). That's when I hatched the plan to go to America and learn from Chris Gregory. In between times i moved south to Victoria and found I couldn't finish school here And that's about the story so far. I wish I had started in an apprenticeship, it would have been easier - or at least I would have fitted into the normal boxes.

As you would be aware but the standard of my work, I'm really only just getting to feel ok about the consistency of my skills. It's taken a long time and it blows me away looking at what your apprentices turn out in comparison! I guess I spent a lot of time arguing, and was in denial about what it takes to
takes to master the skills. It took me a long time to love the forge, but I never gave up trying. Sorry to be long-winded and boringly personal.
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 11:00 #43

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Dont feel so bad some lads over here are in an apprenticship
but they may aswell not be.

there is alot of work to be done between the master and app in the 4 years.

there is alot of good and bad days
but if i think a lad is interested i will meet him half way.
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RE:Certification written test question!! 22 May 2011 11:01 #44

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smitty88 wrote:
Crazy Tbred:confused:

Smitty,

T'breds down here in Aus NZ get put through what can only be described as the ringer.

Most are pretty good to shoe really, but there are enough that are scared, sore, fed up to the eye*****, too much other stuff going on etc that it can be a testing way to make a bob.

And just as you get the bad ones turned around, they get the sack and you have to start all over with a new, and potentially diabolical youngster.

Most of my injuries have been under a racehorse.
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