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Dorsal 16 Mar 2010 21:07 #1

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Understanding the name Dorsal ...and reading the thread on Lateral exstention ..where Ron used the word Dorsally .....
Got me thinking .....why is the Dorsal/toe call the dorsal ????

Palmar/plantar is Hand/foot ...okay , but Dorsal means Back.....just seemed funny ...at the moment ...maybe I just worked to hard today:o
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RE:Dorsal 16 Mar 2010 22:22 #2

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A vet told me it came from human anatomy where a cadaver would have the arms out or up and the hands lying on the same surface as the body. The back of the hand would face the same way as the back of the cadaver, hence "dorsal surface"/. Might need an M.D. to confirm that.
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RE:Dorsal 16 Mar 2010 23:15 #3

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The terms "dorsopalmar" and "dorsoplantar" have origin in the human anatomy explained in Latin language. In Spanish and Latin, the human hand,has "palma" and "dorso". The human foot has "planta" and "dorso)
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RE:Dorsal 16 Mar 2010 23:35 #4

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I just had this discussion yesterday with an owner, of course the word Dorsal to me brings to mind a "dorsal stripe" on a horse or donkey, or a "dorsal fin" on a shark, dolphin, whale, or fish. Jack's explanation is correct as far as I know, and I always pictured a horse on its belly, legs forward and the top side of everything then could be considered a dorsal surface, but this I don't think is an accurate description. Someone told me once that the terminology changes above the carpus, and rather than the dorsal surface of the radius, you would say the cranial surface. I think, more accurately and correctly the terms cranial or caudal should be used in reference to all vertical bones of the limb, below the fetlock dorsal ventral may be argueably more accurate. Because really, the dorsal suface of the 3rd metacarpal is the base of the carpus. The confusion is that the word dorsal comes from the word dorsum, which while I am not certain, I think dorsum is the area in which the backbone lies on any animal. In humans, dorsal is pretty clear because being bipedal our bodies are in line on a vertical plane, everything behind us is dorsal. But interestingly and to add to the confusion, the top side of the human foot is also referred to as a dorsal surface. Anterior posterior may be less confusing in reference to many things we discuss in which there may be ambiguity between whether or not to say dorsal or cranial.
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RE:Dorsal 16 Mar 2010 23:57 #5

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If the Latin could be the father of the English, you could be more easy.

Dorsum (genitivus: dorsi) is the back(vertebral column). It's the origin of the word dorsal.Vg "fin dorsal of the shark"

Dorsum (adverbius) meants " back,other side,reverse"

Craneum (genitivus: cranei) is the bone of the head.

Cauda (genitivus: caudae) is the tail of the animals.

Cranealis meants "near of the head", Caudalis meants "near of the tail"
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RE:Dorsal 16 Mar 2010 23:58 #6

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RE:Dorsal 17 Mar 2010 00:13 #7

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Exerpt from The Horse.com

Dorsal--Parts of the horse's anatomy toward his back (dorsum). Example: The point of the croup is dorsal to the stifle.
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RE:Dorsal 17 Mar 2010 00:26 #8

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on second thought to my previous post, since the topside of the human hand and foot both have a "dorsal" surface, based on comparative anatomy, then everything in reference to the horse's leg distal to the carpus or tarsus would therefore have a dorsal/ ventral aspect, I guess regardless of the fact that the cannon bone for example is on a vertical plane?
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RE:Dorsal 17 Mar 2010 00:31 #9

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BUT..... if this comparative anatomy thing is to be held as true then I guess the words palmar and plantar would have to be used rather than ventral or caudal, all the way up proximally to the carpus/tarsus rather than just in reference to the bottom of the hoof.:rolleyes:
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RE:Dorsal 17 Mar 2010 06:35 #10

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Maybe the name came as a hoof was lying on a table ,and not on the horse...like Jack exsplained...?
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RE:Dorsal 17 Mar 2010 13:54 #11

Like Jack, I remember it thinking of this one. If we would position a horse like that (and I ran into one or two I would gladly see positioned like that :D) the front of the foot appears on the back, thus dorsal.


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RE:Dorsal 24 Mar 2010 11:27 #12

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The palmar view is attributed to the sole of the horse being representative of the palm of a human hand & view of the lower part of the limb . the dorsal view that of the back of the hand & lower part of the limb .:)
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RE:Dorsal 28 Mar 2010 00:12 #13

IMO

Dorsal - away from the ground. Also the surfaces below the proximal ends of the carpus (wrist in humans) and tarsus (ankle in humans)

Ventral - toward the ground.

Dorsal strip is on the back, Ventral strip under the belly.

Plantar, the surface below the prox end of the tarsus.

Palmar, the surface below the prox ends of the carpus.

So for me I hate to hear people say plantar cushion, like when doing a disection on the front foot. It would be palmar cushion, Or as I would say digital cushion.
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RE:Dorsal 28 Mar 2010 20:47 #14

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Front back top bottom inside outside toe n heel and that bit there works well for me ;)
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RE:Dorsal 18 Jun 2010 03:21 #15

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Red Amor wrote:
Front back top bottom inside outside toe n heel and that bit there works well for me ;)

hahaha I like the way you think, Red. :)
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