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Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 04:04 #1

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Today I relearned an old lesson! Last week one of my 6 yr old mares got kicked on the left front leg just about three inches above the knee by another mare. Luckily I thought, the kicker was barefoot. The injuried mare was wearing a blanket due to the cold front we had, and actually the insult was right at the bottom of the blanket. I checked the mare about an hour after I heard the kick and she had a small cut, so I hyroded it and cleaned the wound and checked it everyday. Well, this morning I am still hyroing and notice the knee is still puffy and she is still off just a tad? I turn her back out to the pasture by my arena where she lives and she goes about grazing and nothing wrong. About three hours later, my two stepsons were spreading manure from cleaning stalls and I am riding the "winch" that kicked my mare. My wife then calls me and tells me "Taffy" is limping really bad , because she ran into a tree??? Well I walked out to her and I could see that the bone had gone ahead and displaced , apparently the leg was fractured and she stumbled and caused the bone to seperate. Saturday afternoon and no Vet is taking calls, but I know she is a goner as soon as I saw the leg. I am so upset with myself because I neglected to dig deeper, I guess? Maybe an x-ray would of shown the fracture and I might of been able to keep her in a stall or smaller lot alone? I really feel bad about this and believe me I have put down alot of differant species over my career, but I feel I dropped the ball with her. Long story short, she is a full sister to my "good" mare, she was born with almost a ricketey type conformation, and I was going to put her down that night but my wife said NO! I had to manupilate her hind legs and hocks for the first month of her life because she was so twisted looking to start. Got her over that and then three years ago when I had my sinus surgerys , she stepped on something with her right hind leg and almost severed her DDFT. Got her over that and then I was finally able to start her under saddle, (abit late due to her problems) and working her on cattle. She wasn't as good as her sister but I felt that she was behind in her training. I feel about as low as whale **** and well, I guess I just needed to type it out and read it myself? Thanks for letting me vent.
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RE:Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 04:28 #2

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Sorry you are dealing with this.
Don't blame yourself this sounds like something all but the most nerotic owner would have missed.

The slight swelling and stiffness around the Knee could have just been fluid draining from bruised tissue. I wouldn't have guessed it was broken.

You and your mare will be in my thoughts.
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RE:Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 04:52 #3

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AYYY Gazza wadda bastard mate :(
like olmate said dont be blaming ya self
excrement happens and we all get cought out and I recon Id have acted just as you did mate yeah
Mark Anthony Amor
If we want anymore excrement like that outta you we'll squeese ya head :eek:
Mind how ya go now ;)
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RE:Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 04:54 #4

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I know Red, but it feels like someone sure suckerpunched me in the gut!
"As I see it, winners get the money - while losers talk of "individual goals" and similar stuff." Tom Stovall
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RE:Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 05:07 #5

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Accidents happen Gary, out of you control.
I am sorry to hear this :(
Chocolat noir & Sake.... :D
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RE:Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 05:36 #6

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Gary,

A client (and a good riding buddy) had almost the same experience a couple months ago. Mare came in lame from pasture, had the vet out, he didn't Xray, didn't see a real problem. Couple days later, the bone was displaced, obvious break. Sometimes these things happen - Sorry.
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The older I get, the more horses I shoe, the fewer things that I can absolutely, positively fix.
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RE:Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 06:05 #7

aww....that stinks!! I feel so badly for you! I'll be praying for you.


Beth
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RE:Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 10:09 #8

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It's never easy to lose an animal. I cry every time. I don't think you did anything wrong.If you are like me you don't want to call the vet for every sneeze and sniffle, I'd have done the same as you. Sounds like she had many good years in your family. She would have been denied those years on many other farms. Sleep easy tonight knowing you gave her a home and family while she was here.

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RE:Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 16:10 #9

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Sorry to here about your mare!!
I have heard of this alot here ,you heard the kick ,most of the ones here where not seen or heard ,so they never really know what as happend when the horse suddenly comes in with a break after just being lame for a few days .i was told that it is commen when horses get kicked on the inside of the leg.

The same is with our everyday work ,i had a friend who got hit as a horse pulled of the stand at the front ,it hurt ,but he only found out it was broken at the weekend ,3 days later..

These things happen there is no fault to be found!!

regards Ray
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RE:Second quessing myself! 08 Feb 2009 16:21 #10

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Jack Evers wrote:
Gary,

A client (and a good riding buddy) had almost the same experience a couple months ago. Mare came in lame from pasture, had the vet out, he didn't Xray, didn't see a real problem. Couple days later, the bone was displaced, obvious break. Sometimes these things happen - Sorry.


I KNOW my vet would not have seen the need to x-ray.
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RE:Second quessing myself! 10 Feb 2009 19:35 #11

Sorry to hear this Gary, your a good horseman. I know this is easier said than done, but don't beat yourself up over it. It can happen to any of us. Seen a few injurys with the Vet involved and x-rays were not taken and then after lameness persists find a break. Stuff happens.

Anways, hope that helps.
Phil Armitage, CF
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"Anyone who proposes to do good must not expect people to roll stones out of his way, but must accept his lot calmly if they even roll a few more upon it." Albert Schweitzer
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RE:Second quessing myself! 10 Feb 2009 20:07 #12

Sorry about your horse. This won't make you feel any better but I would have done the same thing.
Cody Gilreath, CF
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RE:Second quessing myself! 10 Feb 2009 21:19 #13

Gary,

Got a call from a client last night.... One of her horses took a spill on some ice when turned out Thursday last week. Vet came out and evaled the horse within hours, could not find anything glaringly wrong but the horse was lame behind. The vet prescribed stall rest and some bute.

My client went out yesterday morning to feed and the horse had somehow during the night displaced at the hip on the injured side.

The horse had to be put down.

This is life as we know it.

I know this does not change your feelings but it may put into perspective that no matter what we do, sometimes things go bad.

Chin up.

Regards,
Brian R. Purrington
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RE:Second quessing myself! 10 Feb 2009 21:42 #14

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As Jaye would say, "Damn, just Damn......."
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In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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RE:Second quessing myself! 10 Feb 2009 21:51 #15

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Thanks for the replies! It was just one of those, Damnit! things!
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