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RE:Iraq discussion 29 Feb 2008 04:25 #46

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Mike,
I'm betten' the folks in Manhatten would vote for over there.

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RE:Iraq discussion 29 Feb 2008 04:53 #47

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Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:
When it all shakes out, what is known is this: Saddam used mustard gas against the Kurds and Iranians; he didn't use any against the Americans during the Gulf War or during Bush's invasion; and no WMDs have ever been found in Iraq. All else is speculation.
I already stated this but I will print it again here.
"So what you are saying nothing should be done until WMDs (Chemical/Biological/Nuclaer) are used. As a retire military member of society I pray we never wait for them to be used, on anyone, before we do something."
I'll guarantee when siren goes off this boy is going to be s u cking rubber (wearing my gas mask) within 30 seconds. I'm not going to wait for the bomb to land to find out if the is and WMD on the war head.

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Bottom line: Bush lied.
Bottom line is intel said they were there and the world believed he had them. The UN had resolutions that stated force would be used if weapons inspectors were not allowed to do their job. Weapons inspectors were kicked out. President Bush said enough is enough we're going in. It to bad the rest of the UN didn't help back their own resolution.

If it had been me we would have been there long before that. If we, the US, say we are going to do something we better do it or other nations won't take us serious at all.
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RE:Iraq discussion 29 Feb 2008 06:10 #48

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If we, the US, say we are going to do something we better do it or other nations won't take us serious at all.
Which is what Obama bin Laden stated when giving examples of us giving up in Lebanon, Somolia, Viet Nam, Yemmen, et al.

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RE:Iraq discussion 29 Feb 2008 09:00 #49

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I already stated this but I will print it again here.

Repeating a fallacy over and over will not make it a true statement.

"So what you are saying nothing should be done until WMDs (Chemical/Biological/Nuclaer) are used.

No, you said that, not me. I said that Bush lied to America about Iraq's having WMDs and used that lie as a basis for starting a war. Iraq did not have any WMDs; ergo, Bush lied.

As a retire military member of society I pray we never wait for them to be used, on anyone, before we do something."

Iraq used mustard gas on both the Kurds and the Iranians. Iraq did not use WMDs during the Gulf War or during Bush's unprovoked invasion. Logic would dictate that if Iraq had both weapons and inclination, they'd have used them on an invading force as there's no benefit to saving them.

I'll guarantee when siren goes off this boy is going to be s u cking rubber (wearing my gas mask) within 30 seconds. I'm not going to wait for the bomb to land to find out if the is and WMD on the war head.

LMAO! Given that Iraq has never had any ICBMs, submarines, or long range bombers, how do you figure Saddam was going to deliver a bomb? UPS? FedEx?

Bottom line is intel said they were there and the world believed he had them.

Nonsense. The world believed nothing of the sort; in fact, the only folks who claimed they believed Iraq had WMDs were Bush and his cronies. One can only wonder why Scott Ritter, the former chief UN arms inspector in Iraq, wrote in 2002:

When I left Iraq in 1998… the infrastructure and facilities had been 100% eliminated. There’s no doubt about that. All of their instruments and facilities had been destroyed. The weapons design facility had been destroyed. The production equipment had been hunted down and destroyed. And we had in place means to monitor - both from vehicles and from the air - the gamma rays that accompany attempts to enrich uranium or plutonium. We never found anything…We blanketed Iraq - every research and development facility, every university, every school, every hospital, every beer factory…

The UN had resolutions that stated force would be used if weapons inspectors were not allowed to do their job. Weapons inspectors were kicked out.

In reality, the UN weapons inspectors were never "kicked out." UN inspectors were in Iraq right up until they were ordered to leave by the U.S., and they requested more time to do their jobs. The U.S., not Saddam, rejected their request.

President Bush said enough is enough we're going in. It to bad the rest of the UN didn't help back their own resolution.


According to UN Charter, the use of force is only legal in self-defense or with UN Security Council authorization. Bush did not act in self defense and did not have Security Council authorization; thus, according to those criteria, Bush's invasion of Iraq was illegal.

If it had been me we would have been there long before that. If we, the US, say we are going to do something we better do it or other nations won't take us serious at all.

Given our glorious history of supporting petty dictatorships around the world, including those in this hemisphere (Batista, Samoza, Peron, Allende, Fujimora, et al), it's a little late for us to be claiming the moral high ground.
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RE:Iraq discussion 29 Feb 2008 10:50 #50

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Bill Adams wrote:
Mike,
I'm betten' the folks in Manhatten would vote for over there.

Let them go.
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RE:Iraq discussion 29 Feb 2008 14:36 #51

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Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:
No, you said that, not me.
Your Right I did say that in response to your statement "No WMDs were ever used on American troops, no WMDs were found, no viable nuclear technology was found,". Which sounded as if nothing should have ever been done even though intel for the last two decades said he had WMD.

As a retire military member of society I pray we never wait for them to be used, on anyone, before we do something."

Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:
Iraq used mustard gas on both the Kurds and the Iranians. Iraq did not use WMDs during the Gulf War or during Bush's unprovoked invasion. Logic would dictate that if Iraq had both weapons and inclination, they'd have used them on an invading force as there's no benefit to saving them.
Logic would have it that you would not use this kind of weapon, on a much more superior force. Who has the capabilities to send it back in much greater numbers, and who has shown willingness to use if if needed.

Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:
LMAO! Given that Iraq has never had any ICBMs, submarines, or long range bombers, how do you figure Saddam was going to deliver a bomb? UPS? FedEx?
So the missles that landed in Ryiad durning the Gulf war was not enough to show that he had the capabilites to reach out of his country. Even if thier accuracy was not very accurat, you don't need acuracy when deploying WMD.

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Nonsense. The world believed nothing of the sort; in fact, the only folks who claimed they believed Iraq had WMDs were Bush and his cronies.
Nonsense. Intel given the troops all durning the Clintin administration said that he had WMDs and was capable of using them.

Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:
In reality, the UN weapons inspectors were never "kicked out." UN inspectors were in Iraq right up until they were ordered to leave by the U.S., and they requested more time to do their jobs. The U.S., not Saddam, rejected their request.
You better go back and study your history. The weapons inspectors were kicked out several times during the 90s. It was only when the US decided to invade that they ordered the inspectors out, and they had just gotten back in after previously being kicked out.
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RE:Iraq discussion 29 Feb 2008 17:41 #52

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Your Right I did say that in response to your statement "No WMDs were ever used on American troops, no WMDs were found, no viable nuclear technology was found,". Which sounded as if nothing should have ever been done even though intel for the last two decades said he had WMD.

In reality, Scott Ritter, the head UN inspector in Iraq, wrote, "When I left Iraq in 1998… the infrastructure and facilities [for WMD manufacture and deployment] had been 100% eliminated..."

Logic would have it that you would not use this kind of weapon, on a much more superior force. Who has the capabilities to send it back in much greater numbers, and who has shown willingness to use if if needed.


Au contrarie. Islamic culture glorifies kids' strapping on dynamite corsets and blowing themselves up in crowds, so there's little doubt that Saddam would've used WMDs if he'd had any to use.

So the missles that landed in Ryiad durning the Gulf war was not enough to show that he had the capabilites to reach out of his country. Even if thier accuracy was not very accurat, you don't need acuracy when deploying WMD.

LMAO! While accuracy may not be important, distance is. Unless you think Iraq had some means of sending a bomb 7,500 miles - which is roughly the distance between Baghdad and Washington - Bush lied when he said that Iraq's WMDs represented a threat to the US:

Nonsense. Intel given the troops all durning the Clintin administration said that he had WMDs and was capable of using them.

So what? Bush attacked Iraq in 2003 after the UN inspectors had declared that Iraq did not have any WMDs and was not capable of building or delivering any.

You better go back and study your history. The weapons inspectors were kicked out several times during the 90s.


Dare I suggest you heed your own advice? No UN weapons inspectors were "kicked out" of Iraq during Bush's administration.

It was only when the US decided to invade that they ordered the inspectors out, and they had just gotten back in after previously being kicked out.

Wrong again. Please read some history instead of Bush's revisionist propaganda. Here's what Scott Ridder (remember him?) said in sworn testimony before the International Commission on Crimes against Humanity:

In the week prior to the US invasion of Iraq in March 2003, in fact the weapons inspectors were actively engaged in the process of dismantling Iraqi ballistic missiles that had been declared in violation of the Security Council resolution. Because the United States ordered the inspectors out-- they were not kicked out by Saddam-- many of these missiles remained in place and in operational status and were in fact used by Iraq against US forces during that war.

On April 3, 2005, Dafna Linzer wrote in the Washington Post:

Of all the claims U.S. intelligence made about Iraq's arsenal in the fall and winter of 2002, it was a handful of new charges that seemed the most significant: secret purchases of uranium from Africa, biological weapons being made in mobile laboratories, and pilotless planes that could disperse anthrax or sarin gas into the air above U.S. cities.

By the time President Bush ordered U.S. troops to disarm Saddam Hussein of the deadly weapons he was allegedly trying to build, every piece of fresh evidence had been tested -- and disproved -- by U.N. inspectors, according to a report commissioned by the president and released Thursday.The work of the inspectors -- who had extraordinary access during their three months in Iraq between November 2002 and March 2003 -- was routinely dismissed by the Bush administration and the intelligence community in the run-up to the war, according to the commission led by former senator Charles S. Robb (D-Va.) and retired appellate court judge Laurence H. Silberman. :)
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RE:Iraq discussion 29 Feb 2008 23:37 #53

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The short of it is this.

When in a leadership postion you have to make decisions based on the information you have. Someone will always disagree with your decision. There will always be someone who would have done it diffrent. The point is you have to make a dicision even if it is not the popular one to make.

In this case President Bush, made a decision based on the information and facts he had. I believe based on the information I had from 21 1/2 yrs in the USAF (1981-2002) that he made the right decision in the best intrest of the country.

You and every other demicarat or librel can disagree thats Ok. The fact is it was his decission to make and no one else's.
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RE:Iraq discussion 01 Mar 2008 02:50 #54

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You know Gary,

Talking about factual information and honesty

WWII never would have happened if it hadn't been for the Poles attacking that radio station would it?
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RE:Iraq discussion 01 Mar 2008 18:17 #55

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AMEN Gary !!

Everyone blames Bush, yet he is making decisions on the information and recomendations brought to him by his ""staff.

It will be the same for McCain or Obama or Clinton who ever gets elected.

And all the hype about who ever gets in is going to end the conflict with Iraq/Afgahnistan/Iran/ Africa.
The folks will be sorely disapointed. Even deciding to end it today means withdrawl over a period of time and were still looking at years.
And by that time there will be a new conflict somewhere else in the world requireing our troops.
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RE:Iraq discussion 02 Mar 2008 03:37 #56

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First of all I saw first hand what Sadam did to his people, the way he lived and the way his people lived. What he did to his people when they posed a threat to his power base. I am glad we got rid of him and would gladly do it over again if necessary.

Second. (my personal feelings so will not try to support this position) By going into Iraq I belive we took away from the main effort. Blunders were made and still are. If we had focused on the Afgan issue then we would have been much further along than now. We wouldn't have had the terrorists problem in Iraq now? I doubt it. Sadam was paying Hamas members for suicide bombers and I believe he would have opened his area to terrorists training camps. If this was done we would have been there anyway. Did we destable the area by our actions? Yes and no. I believe it would have come sooner or later anyway. By Sadam's own words we put out the false info leading people to think he still had WMDs to keep Iran off balance. It had to be good enough to fool them, so this mean it had be be a very good story. Could this have had an effect on what Bush did - I believe so. Bush is the CIC and it is his call. Hind sight is always 20/20.
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RE:Iraq discussion 02 Mar 2008 15:31 #57

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The short of it is this.

When in a leadership postion you have to make decisions based on the information you have.


Bush did not make the decision to invade Iraq on the basis of the available information; he disregard the intelligence provided by professionals in favor of the advice of his cronies, then chose to invade Iraq.

Someone will always disagree with your decision. There will always be someone who would have done it diffrent. The point is you have to make a dicision even if it is not the popular one to make.

Balderdash! Bush was not forced into his decision to invade Iraq, he chose to invade, then lied to America about his reasons for doing so.

In this case President Bush, made a decision based on the information and facts he had. I believe based on the information I had from 21 1/2 yrs in the USAF (1981-2002) that he made the right decision in the best intrest of the country.

Belief and knowledge are quite different. While you may believe invading Iraq and involving ourselves in a civil war on the basis of Bush's lies was in the best interest of our country, nearly 4,000 American dead, untold billions wasted on a costly civil war, and no end in sight would indicate your belief is not based on fact.

You and every other demicarat or librel can disagree thats Ok.


LMAO! Apparently you feel that anyone who thinks for himself, has the temerity to question authority, or does not march in intellectual lockstep to the mindless metronome of government propaganda is worthy of the sobriquet, "demicrat" or "librel." How refreshing!

The fact is it was his decission to make and no one else's.

The fact is that Bush invaded Iraq without a valid reason and in violation of the UN charter, then lied to the American public about his reasons for doing so.
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RE:Iraq discussion 02 Mar 2008 15:46 #58

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First of all I saw first hand what Sadam did to his people, the way he lived and the way his people lived. What he did to his people when they posed a threat to his power base. I am glad we got rid of him and would gladly do it over again if necessary.

Would you?

Under Saddam, Iraqis had no personal or political freedom; secular, not religious, law; virtually no crime; the highest per capita income and highest literacy rate in the Middle East; no terrorist ties, poor medical care and poor basic services.

Since the Bush invasion, Iraqis have political freedom - but civil war; are rapidly becoming an Islamic state ruled by various sects - with sectarian violence commonplace; religious law, rampant crime, a brain drain of professionals, a lowered literacy rate, and even worse medical care and basic services than before the invasion.

Most importantly, since Bush invaded Iraq, nearly 4,000 American and 90,000 Iraqis have died.

For what?
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RE:Iraq discussion 02 Mar 2008 16:36 #59

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beslagsmed in gray, deletia

First of all I saw first hand what Sadam did to his people, the way he lived and the way his people lived. What he did to his people when they posed a threat to his power base. I am glad we got rid of him and would gladly do it over again if necessary.

Would you?

Under Saddam, Iraqis had no personal or political freedom; secular, not religious, law; virtually no crime; the highest per capita income and highest literacy rate in the Middle East; no terrorist ties, poor medical care and poor basic services.

Since the Bush invasion, Iraqis have political freedom - but civil war; are rapidly becoming an Islamic state ruled by various sects - with sectarian violence commonplace; religious law, rampant crime, a brain drain of professionals, a lowered literacy rate, and even worse medical care and basic services than before the invasion.

Most importantly, since Bush invaded Iraq, nearly 4,000 American and 90,000 Iraqis have died.

For what?

So you can sit on your wore - out old arse ,behind the computer screen, In complete safety. Residents of Iraq did not have the privledge to spout off pubicly about Sadam when he was in power, Like you do about Bush. Do you not think that wmd's could have gotten out of the country before we invaded, And it was Sadam's choice not to comply before the invasion, But i guess when you look at things from a socialist point-of-view, they deffinately had security, knowing they would get more of the same, And by the way, he used wmd's on his own people, I am sure he would have loved to get some in the wrong hands before he was ousted. If you think that he could not have gotten them here, just because he didn't have the conventional means to do so , you would be wrong, Thank god for George W Bush, and our brave soldiers,that we have not had another attack! Tom , would you like to see a muslim President?
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So you can sit on your wore - out old arse ,behind the computer screen, In complete safety. Residents of Iraq did not have the privledge to spout off pubicly about Sadam when he was in power,
He was duly elected isn't that a good enough referendum for you? Or do you prefer installed by Supreme Court? He was also tolerant of other religions to the point that Jews lived in Iraq without harrassment and some of his cronies were Christians. Clearly the folks over there are much less tolerant now.
Do you not think that wmd's could have gotten out of the country before we invaded,
No, because there were none there. Even if there would have been a sovereign country has the right to own weapons just as a free people have the right to be armed.
And it was Sadam's choice not to comply before the invasion,
Just who'n the hell died and made the UN king? Can't blame anybody who refuses to take orders from them.
And by the way, he used wmd's on his own people,
Hmmmm I can remember the Philadelphia police department dropping an incendiary satchel charge on a house and burning down an entire city block. I can also remember a similar incident in Waco Texas. Well maybe we shouldn't call the kettle black should we?
Tom , would you like to see a muslim President?
You haven't been around here too long. Before throwing the gauntlet down to Mr Stovall I'll just warn you not to bring a knife to a gunfight.

I'll look forward to watching him put you in deletia:)
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