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TOPIC: Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing

RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 22 May 2009 00:49 #61

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What ever happen to go out make a living SHOE HORSES.In my opinion I and most horse owners could give a rats behind what organization you or I belong too.Give it a rest go out and do the best you can.WAHHHHHHHHH she is a plater Wahhhhhhh i am AFA wahhhhhhhhh I am union really folks if you have a successful business over the years be happy and great full,Some people would enjoy having a successful business.I belong to the working mans bar association.Now go ahead and rip me apart.:cool:

BABA,how can you talk like that and call yourself BABABOOY? All these people
belong,and when you say things like that,they get mad.If you want to remain friends with these guys,you better say what they want to hear,or you will be ignored~
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 22 May 2009 01:06 #62

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WAHHHHHHH = crying and whining I do agree with you 100% about running a business now than 40 years ago.All I am trying to say is when was the last time a new customer asked anyone that would be a new farrier in the barn what association do you belong too?:eek:

why are you always crying?
belonging to an association is not an achievement, it just means that you paid a dollar amount in dues. Certification is an achievement, but it is not pursued with the expectation that the accomplishment will earn you business. It is pursued as a personal goal for farriers to better themselves through the experience. Those who have attained various certification levels in certain associations have a degree of respect for others who have taken on the challenge, due to the standard of difficulty and the professional goal oriented attitude of these farriers who tend to typically take their profession much more seriously than those who sit in the peanut gallery and make excuses.
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 22 May 2009 18:44 #63

OK MR Talbert so what you are saying is if I or other to be Farriers were to pay allot of money in these organizations we would be more respected by other farriers?My main ????? is why cant all these organizations just put there heads together and work as one.It almost looks like the Bloods and the Crips the way certain organizations go at each other.:eek:
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 22 May 2009 19:46 #64

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OK MR Talbert so what you are saying is if I or other to be Farriers were to pay allot of money in these organizations we would be more respected by other farriers?My main ????? is why cant all these organizations just put there heads together and work as one.It almost looks like the Bloods and the Crips the way certain organizations go at each other.:eek:
On the national scene I tend to agree with you. Best thing is to be involved with a state or local organization. Their the best thing out there right now especially those few that aren't affiliated with anybody.
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 22 May 2009 23:02 #65

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bababoey38, posting anonymously in the political section, in gray

What ever happen to go out make a living SHOE HORSES.


Been there, done that, got the tee shirt, wore it out.

In my opinion I and most horse owners could give a rats behind what organization you or I belong too.

Did the horse owners elect you spokesman?

Give it a rest go out and do the best you can.

Or what?

WAHHHHHHHHH she is a plater Wahhhhhhh i am AFA wahhhhhhhhh I am union really folks if you have a successful business over the years be happy and great full, Some people would enjoy having a successful business.

Sir (Madam? Miss? Ms?), has it ever occurred to your androgenous self that some of the more experienced folks on this forum might enjoy having a successful business (or, two), yet feel an obligation to try to better the state of farriery in the US in some small way, somewhat in the nature of payback? As I see it, anything from helping a kid starting out to bouncing technical stuff off one another comes under the heading of advancing knowledge and is of some value. The phrase, "Giving back," is overused to the point of being trite, but it works for me.

Now go ahead and rip me apart.

No need, you've already self-immolated.:)
Tom Stovall, CJF
"The only foolish question is the one left unasked."
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 23 May 2009 00:53 #66

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bababoey38 wrote:
OK MR Talbert so what you are saying is if I or other to be Farriers were to pay allot of money in these organizations we would be more respected by other farriers?
No, thats not at all what I said, in fact, I said just the opposite. Paying dues to an association and being a member is not an achievement.
My main ????? is why cant all these organizations just put there heads together and work as one.It almost looks like the Bloods and the Crips the way certain organizations go at each other.:eek:
that is a reasonable question, if that was your main question, why didn't you just ask it without all the sarcasm? the answer in my opinion is that this is not a utopian society where-in everyone has the same objectives. I'm not so sure we would be better off with one association. The different associations seem to attract like minded farriers and suit their needs better.
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 23 May 2009 00:56 #67

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Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:
bababoey38, posting anonymously in the political section, in gray

Right you are Tom. My error.

OK, listen up babaoey38, all posts in the Political Forum have to be signed with your real full name. Any future posts you put in this forum that aren't signed will be removed.

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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 23 May 2009 04:36 #68

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Right you are Tom. My error.

OK, listen up babaoey38, all posts in the Political Forum have to be signed with your real full name. Any future posts you put in this forum that aren't signed will be removed.

Baron

Is that so te political elite know who to 'round up'?

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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 23 May 2009 12:00 #69

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SlowShoe in gray, Baron in brown

"...All posts in the Political Forum have to be signed with your real full name. Any future posts you put in this forum that aren't signed will be removed."

Is that so te political elite know who to 'round up'?

Did you ever consider the similarity between one's expressing a political opinion while cloaked in anonymity and one's spewing racial vitriol while wearing a white robe and hood? While there's a difference in degree, the principle is exactly the same: the object is to hide one's identity in order to avoid personal responsibility for one's opinion.

More likely, the rule was made to insure that anyone who desires to express a political opinion should feel strongly enough about the value of that opinion to take personal responsibility for that expression by signing their posts with their true given and family name. Politics at any level are personal - and if someone it too intellectually cowardly to take personal responsibility for their opinion, then most likely their opinion ain't worth a bucket of warm spit. (Apologies to the shade of JNG.) :)
Tom Stovall, CJF
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 25 May 2009 17:21 #70

I forgot about that rule Baron.The responses were great and thank you for those that replied.

Mark Carlone
A guy just wanting to learn.
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 26 May 2009 11:50 #71

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bababoey38, Mark Carlone,

If I am correct, you live in NJ?
How many GSHA Meetings have you attended?

The GSHA has had monthly meetings with a Clinic catering to young and old guys/girls wanting to learn.
The GSHA is a Chapter of the AFA.

Where have you been?
Bob Pethick CJF AFA #1340
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 28 May 2009 05:00 #72

Hmmmmm Mr Pethick have tried calling you a number of times and you never ever return a phone call I understand you and others are busy but heck how can someone get somewhere if he has no information.And you wonder why some people feel a bit bitter about these organizations.:rolleyes:
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 28 May 2009 11:37 #73

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Hmmmmm Mr Pethick have tried calling you a number of times and you never ever return a phone call I understand you and others are busy but heck how can someone get somewhere if he has no information.And you wonder why some people feel a bit bitter about these organizations.:rolleyes:

I did return your phone calls and left messages, I believe it was a girlfriends number?

You were calling about a helper position not the GSHA.

Have you PM'd me here or sent an email?
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 29 May 2009 03:17 #74

Yes Mr Pethick I have sent you messages here and yes I have sent Emails.Yes calls were for a helper and calls were about the group also.You are a very respected gentleman in the horse world.Maybe one day we can get together and chat.
Mark Carlone
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RE:Official Statement from the BWFA on Farrier Licensing 29 May 2009 11:52 #75

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bababoey38 wrote:
Yes Mr Pethick I have sent you messages here and yes I have sent Emails.Yes calls were for a helper and calls were about the group also.You are a very respected gentleman in the horse world.Maybe one day we can get together and chat.
Mark Carlone

Mark,

I have never received a email or PM from you.

I am not too hard to find.
I am at all my accounts on the same day every week and at the Oldwick General Store every morning.

My email is below.
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