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You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 14:31 #1

Dave Whitaker
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18 WAYS TO BE A GOOD LIBERAL

1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and
governments create prosperity.
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens
are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the
hands of Iran or Chinese and North Korean communists.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before federal funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by
cyclical changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer
moms driving SUV's.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being
homo***ual is natural.
7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of
federal funding.
8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-
graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids
about ***.
9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but PETA
activists do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than
actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain
parts of the Constitution.
12. You have to believe the ACLU is good because it supports certain
parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe t hat taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are
more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen.
Robert E. Lee, and Thomas Edison.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but
racial quotas and set-asides are not.
16. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked
anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.
17. You have to believe that homo***ual parades displaying drag
queens and transvestites should be constitutionally protected, and
manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
18. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right-
wing conspiracy

GOD BLESS AMERICA

Oops, can't do that either !!!
This got emailed to me this AM... too damn funny and too damn true!!!

Dave

"Everything is for sale......some are just harder to buy than others......"

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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 16:22 #2

Derin Foor OFFLINE Very Senior Member Posts: 524 Karma: 0	great thread on the finer points of horseshoeing
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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 18:01 #3

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Dave Whitaker in gray

18 WAYS TO BE A GOOD LIBERAL

A much better title would be, "18 Ways to Practice Scapegoating in Order to Avoid Having to Think."

1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.

As an independent, I'm dead set against capital punishment. Kill somebody, they quit hurting: I want the worst criminals to hurt, not die. Besides, if the wrong guy happens to be convicted, it's kinda hard to unkill somebody. As far as abortion goes, if you don't believe in abortion, don't have one.

2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.

An independent might point out that our laws are tilted in favor of big business, insurance companies are fifedoms who control most of the money, our banking system sucks, and our government has been a defacto oligarchy since its inception. Somebody like me might also remind folks that our lack of some form of national healthcare is a disgrace.

3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens are more of a threat than U.S. nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Iran or Chinese and North Korean communists.

Personally, I think gun control means hitting what you aim at. Folks in the rural South and Southwest are invariably polite - and invariably armed.

4. You have to believe that there was no art before federal funding.

Good art sells; poor art too, even mine.

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.

Ever wonder why China and India didn't sign the Montreal Protocol? Why the US rightly refused to sign the Kyoto Accords? It's much easier to believe the nattering of politicians than to make informed choices.

6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial, but being homo***ual is natural.

Personally, I figure other folks' consensual bedroom activities are none of my - or society's - business.

7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.

In point of fact, the spread of the AIDS virus in the US was encouraged by Reagan's adoption of a head in the sand posture and Congress' refusal to allocate funds for public education. Doubters might want to read, "And the Band Played On."

8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach 4th-graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about ***.

I believe the desire for political correctness that created an administrative buffer between student and teacher and a policy that stopped the corporal punishment of miscreant students in public schools has created an entire generation of kids who don't respect themselves, society, or education.

9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but PETA activists do.

As an avid hunter, I'll admit there are good and bad hunters. On the other hand, PETA has never given any animal feed, water, or shelter. Easy choice.

10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.

LMAO! This drivel is going to be a tough sell to anybody who ever rodeoed, whatever his politics.

11. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

One can only wonder why the author thinks the NRA doesn't support all of the Constitution.

12. You have to believe the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.

One can only wonder why the author thinks the ACLU doesn't support all of the Constitution.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.

Then again, one might wonder why the country is fast going broke because we're fighting an undeclared war based on a sitting president's lies about WMDs, non-existent nuclear material, and whatnot - and meanwhile, we've outsourced our heavy manufacturing capability to stateless multinationals and our balance of trade is tilted percariously toward China. Did I mention we lost the "War on Drugs" long long ago - but keeping it in the news helps to keep the public from thinking about stuff that matters - stuff like our kids dying in an Iraqi civil war.

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Gen. Robert E. Lee, and Thomas Edison.

Worse yet, some fool might get to thinking that any of the above are as worthy of remembering as Sam Houston, William Travis, Davy Crockett, et al.

15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.

Anything that tilts the public table, one way or the other, is both illogical and unfair.

16. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been in charge.

A less indifferent student of government might have noted that various forms of socialism "work" in much of the West, including most of Western Europe and the UK.

17. You have to believe yhat homo***ual parades displaying drag queens and transvestites should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.

LAMO! Do you think tax money should be used to support either activity?

18. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right-wing conspiracy

I believe this message is the work of folks who haven't bothered to think about society's problems because it's lots easier to find a handy scapegoat than it is to think. What the hell, the model has worked for despots throughout history and is working in America right now.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

If one subscribes to the notion of a higher power, then a more timely prayer might be: GOD SAVE AMERICA FROM THE AVARICE OF ITS LEADERS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE!

Tom Stovall, CJF
"The only foolish question is the one left unasked."

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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 18:08 #4

George Geist OFFLINE Master Posts: 3336 Thank you received: 3 Karma: 3	Outstanding! I was hoping Mr Stovall would have come by to comment.:cool: Perfect slam dunk! Love it! George
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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 18:11 #5

brian robertson OFFLINE Master Posts: 1327 Thank you received: 22 Karma: 3	Thank you, Sir Thomas, for your critical thinking; something the far right and far left fail to bother with anymore; much easier to be "ditto heads".
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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 20:23 #6

Rick Burten OFFLINE Enforcer Posts: 9082 Thank you received: 50 Karma: 8	Well said Mr. Stovall!
	Rick Burten PF In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever." ." Je pense donc je suis The administrator has disabled public write access.

RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 21:23 #7

Phil Armitage OFFLINE Guru Posts: 9254 Karma: 0	Derin Foor wrote: great thread on the finer points of horseshoeing Derin how is this? Your a liberal if you think shoes are evil.
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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 21:37 #8

Derin Foor OFFLINE Very Senior Member Posts: 524 Karma: 0	Phil Armitage wrote: Derin how is this? Your a liberal if you think shoes are evil. my comment was sarcastic for those of you that didn't recognize it Derin
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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 22:42 #9

Phil Armitage OFFLINE Guru Posts: 9254 Karma: 0	Derin Foor wrote: my comment was sarcastic for those of you that didn't recognize it Derin Don't worry I have never met a liberal farrier. I don't think there was a need to clarify, but you never know.
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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 13 Feb 2008 23:46 #10

Tim Hutton OFFLINE Member Posts: 42 Karma: 0	Dave Whitaker wrote: 18 WAYS TO BE A GOOD LIBERAL 1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand. But if you flip that to the conservative way of thought: For capital punishment, but against abortion. What's that saying...Don't kill them yet, lets wait to see how they turn out...That's not pro-life, that's pro-crastination.
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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 14 Feb 2008 00:33 #11

solidrockshoer OFFLINE Admin Posts: 12874 Thank you received: 2 Karma: -1	I just spit my beer all over my pc screen! Thats funny as all hell. I've always voted Rep. and proabably always will as well as live in a mostly rep. state, I couldn't imagine not being able to shoot my guns in my backyard or carry one on my belt if I wanted.
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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 14 Feb 2008 05:47 #12

Rick Burten OFFLINE Enforcer Posts: 9082 Thank you received: 50 Karma: 8	Tim Hutton wrote: ..That's not pro-life, that's pro-crastination. Whew! I'm glad I read that a second time. The first time I thought it said "That's not pro-life, that's pro-castration."
	Rick Burten PF In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever." ." Je pense donc je suis The administrator has disabled public write access.

RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 14 Feb 2008 12:49 #13

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Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:

Dave Whitaker in gray

18 WAYS TO BE A GOOD LIBERAL

As far as abortion goes, if you don't believe in abortion, don't have one.

Can I stop paying for them too?

Under aged children being given abortions without the parents consent or knowledge?

It isn't murder for a woman to kill her unborn child but if someone kills her while she is pregnant, it's a double MURDER? The law seems to acknowlege that it's murder and I agree.

Personally, I figure other folks' consensual bedroom activities are none of my - or society's - business.

Agreed. I don't care what they consent to in their beds. The problem starts when they want to wave it in my face and call me names when I refuse to consent.

It's a problem when legeslation is passed that forces same *** couples to be presented in the same manor and "given equal time" as a "traditional family" in the government schools for the purpose of brain washing our children.

It's a problem when they want to change the definition of words that we all took for granted. marriage >noun 1 the formal union of a man and a woman, by which they become husband and wife. It's a problem when they try to make it a civil rights issue.

A less indifferent student of government might have noted that various forms of socialism "work" in much of the West, including most of Western Europe and the UK.

It could be argued that socialism can work. I just don't want it to work here. If it does, it'll be after the fight.

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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 14 Feb 2008 13:05 #14

Mike Ferrara OFFLINE Guru Posts: 5057 Thank you received: 3 Karma: 0	PerformanceHorseshoeing wrote: I just spit my beer all over my pc screen! Thats funny as all hell. I've always voted Rep. and proabably always will as well as live in a mostly rep. state, I couldn't imagine not being able to shoot my guns in my backyard or carry one on my belt if I wanted. The republicans are dirt bags but the dUmocrats are dirt bags and they're proud of it.
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RE:You Are A Liberal If??????? 14 Feb 2008 14:10 #15

Gary_Miller OFFLINE Master Posts: 2565 Thank you received: 1 Karma: 0	Tom Stovall, CJF wrote: Somebody like me might also remind folks that our lack of some form of national healthcare is a disgrace. Why don't you use the right term? What you want is a "National Health Insurance" paid for by the tax payer. We already have the best health care in the world. You just have to pay for it.
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