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RE:Ban in California 08 Feb 2008 13:09 #31

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Thomas_Ride&Drive wrote:
Personally speaking, I don't like circuses using animals at all.

Did anyone see this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=512657&in_page_id=1770

In my opinion its totally sickening!
Thomas,
Far be it from the good old Daily Mail to operate with a degree of bias but what exactly do you find so objectionable about that?

I could see if it were something like Spanish Bullfighting but I see no harm done in that article.
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RE:Ban in California 08 Feb 2008 13:49 #32

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That horse looks trained not scared for its life? Funny thing how a photo can make people freek out? The Chinese well they are just Chinese, and you know we all want to be like them!:eek:
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RE:Ban in California 08 Feb 2008 13:50 #33

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George Geist wrote:
Thomas,
Far be it from the good old Daily Mail to operate with a degree of bias
The Daily Mail isn't my paper of choice but you can hardly suggest its got some sort of irrational political bent. The article was actually in the broadsheets and the equine journals too but that was the first one I could find on line.
but what exactly do you find so objectionable about that?

I could see if it were something like Spanish Bullfighting but I see no harm done in that article.
George
Well personally I think its absolutely sickening.

The big cats are kept totally confined in small cages. They've got bears chained and doing such as riding bicycles. Furthermore they're feeding live animals to such as big cats. The pony weighs less than the lion (well that might be a slight exageration but the big cats are between 30 and 50 stone!) and its clearly scared! Its abhorrant and not acceptable nowadays.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=97037&in_page_id=34#StartComments

China has an appalling record on human rights and you might as well forget animal rights! Its trying to make a place for itself on the world stage and IMO they need to know that this sort of stuff is totally unaccepable and not considered the norm in the civilised world. I personally fail to understand why they got the olympics!

And I'm anti bull fighting too!
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RE:Ban in California 08 Feb 2008 23:42 #34

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George Geist wrote:
Bite your tongue! That is another illegitimate, unconstitutional organization that should not exist. I'd vote for Jaye if he would disband them and all other alphabet soup agencies.George

I agree with you on this. I meant it as a joke, like I would make my brother in law the Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare as he is healthy, educated and on welfare.

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:Ban in California 09 Feb 2008 01:32 #35

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I agree with you on this. I meant it as a joke, like I would make my brother in law the Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare as he is healthy, educated and on welfare.
LMYAO!
In that case might there be a job at Justice for my cousin who spends most of his time in jail?:eek:
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RE:Ban in California 09 Feb 2008 02:35 #36

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Thomas, a cage to a lion is like a stall to a horse.Biggest differance is the fact that big cats sleep 18 out of 24 hours aday, in cages and in the wild! Reason that Lions are the King of Beasts is the fact that the males don't need to do any thing but Breed, Eat and Sleep! The lionesses do the hunting and on occasion when a young male comes around the old boy has to run the young one off to keep his "pride" together. Bears on chains while they perform keeps them from getting into the front row seats with you!:D Animal people for the most part are just like horsepeople! These folks depend on their animals for their livelyhood and must take good care of them so everyone eats! Just like horsepeople some folk shouldn't be allowed near them, BUT the way the Fanatical Animal Activitists are they don't want ANYONE to own an animal at all! Man is killing the habitiat of most ever animal on earth ,everyday some species moves closer to extinction! If animal owners whether they own horses or exotics don't stick together and fight these people, none of us will be working with animals in the near future.:mad:
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RE:Ban in California 10 Feb 2008 04:17 #37

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Now Massachusestts is getting into the act! We are all in real trouble if Hilary gets elected too!:(




Saturday, February 09, 2008
From Dave Orr

As you know, Massachusetts Senate Bill 2002 went before the Joint Committee on Tourism, Arts, and Cultural Development for a hearing last October. The Committee has now scheduled a vote on the bill for next Wednesday, February 13. SB 2002 would prohibit the use of an ankus or chains on elephants. And by banning the use of legitimate elephant training tools, MA SB 2002 would prevent circuses with elephants from visiting the state of Massachusetts.
Committee members heard from numerous Circus Fans and supporters leading up to the hearing, including many who testified in opposition to the bill at the hearing. We are now asking Massachusetts circus and animal industry supporters to contact only the five key Committee members listed below before the vote on Wednesday. Even if you made contact with these legislators last fall, please take a moment to call or e-mail and respectfully ask them to vote NO on SB 2002. This effort is appropriate for Massachusetts residents only, or for those who have circus or animal interests in the state.
Representative David Sullivan (Fall River)
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Phone: (617) 722-2230

Representative Willie Mae Allen (Boston)
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Representative Rosemary Sandlin (Agawam)
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Representative Todd M. Smola (Palmer)
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Phone: (617) 722-2240

Senator Pamela P. Resor (Middle*** and Worcester)
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Thank you very much for your continued help and support!
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