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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 01:01 #121

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Okay, enough already your makeing me blush. :o


WHY, you think you are a young guy?

I said................I can make the "young" guys blush, and the old men want to come out of retirement!...............ohhh....... my...........

and Phil, dear:

YOU ARE NOT YOUNG ANY MORE!
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 01:13 #122

George Geist wrote:
Hey Ron,
I have no problem with anything you say and as I said I'm not sure about the numbers myself because most of us don't have much contact with anybody outside our locals.

I'll say that even if you're correct in your estimation why is it that you'll take GPF seriously and not us then? Personally I find it difficult to take seriously any organization that doesn't require testing for membership but you know that.

Don't misunderstand I'm not bad mouthing GPF in fact I think they'll be a good thing so long as Tom Bloomer keeps steering the ship.

Now, in all fairness I didn't start this one this time. Admittedly I can instigate but this time is not as it appears. Linda mentioned something about the Union, these guys went into attack mode and the fuse was lit. I do ride for the brand and lead from the front so when my group is getting beaten up on I'll be there.

As I said before this has been going on for many years. Since the founding of the AFA matter of fact.

Personally I think I'd rather wrestle a grizzly than argue with Tom Stovall! The things I do for my beloved Union :D
George


I was so happy to meet everyone at the GPF, and Tom Bloomer is a great leader, a good person, and a great blacksmith in the shoes he was making in his forge. I learned from him that day, and Alvin too; and he (Tom B.) takes the time to show you something you might not understand or forgot over the years. He is a giving person!!! He is an inspiration for all up in coming horseshoers, and for the all ready established. Hoping to join the GPF soon! because of it.
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:13 #123

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Linda

Looks as if you couldn't answer my question. If you truly have knowledge of the "federal arrest" you should be able to answer my simple question.

Or were you just spouting off?

Please refrain from the s-exual comments and just answer the questions.
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:16 #124

Hey

You AFA guys like to tear up a JHU girl farrier!

but let me tell you one thing, gentlemen:


...................GIRLS RULE!!!!!!!! AND BOYS DROOL.....:-( :-(


OH YEAH!....................
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:22 #125

J.H. shoeing wrote:
Linda

Looks as if you couldn't answer my question. If you truly have knowledge of the "federal arrest" you should be able to answer my simple question.

Or were you just spouting off?

Please refrain from the s-exual comments and just answer the questions.


1. Drugs are involved, federal arrest will happen.

2. Your jealous that I can flirt.
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:33 #126

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Adding my 2 cents;

In 1994, Laural Ractrack in Md, pulled that on me. You MUST take the Union test, whether you belong to the Union or not, or you do not get your racetrack licence to shoe on the backside. They do not reconized any other track licence what so ever, even Philadelphia Park which is Union. If you had Philadelphia Park licence, JHU or not; they made you take the test all over again. The stewards made that rule on me (1994); might not even apply today????? Not sure of Laural by-laws are today??

And Tom what ever the stewards say, goes on any ruling.
This is a state law, or you will be ruled off; if you do not comply, and if you are ruled off, YOU ARE RULED OFF FOR THE REST OF YOUR NATURAL LIFE!!!! You may never go on the backside of any track in any state in the US, for anything (nothing!!!!) ANYTHING for the rest of your natural life, there are NO exceptions! And this it put on your arrest record (fingerprinted and record kept at the FBI office), since this becomes a FEDERAL OFFENSE. Sometimes, there is a prison sentence up to 10 years.

This federal law ruling applies to "everyone" in the farrier business, and to anyone in the horse business.
PS I have witness this first hand

The above is Linda's post #98
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:33 #127

J.H. shoeing wrote:
Linda

Looks as if you couldn't answer my question. If you truly have knowledge of the "federal arrest" you should be able to answer my simple question.

Or were you just spouting off?

Please refrain from the s-exual comments and just answer the questions.



PS. I know when to very serious, and I also know when not to take life so serious that:
I miss a joke, or a sunset, or some flirtation, sometimes.

Just remember life is way too short not to take out the time to laugh and enjoy what little precious time we may all have.
For we never know if tommorow is our last time we drink a cup of coffee in the morning, kiss our kids, our spouses, or last day we go out and shoe a horse.
Remember, the people who started their day, and never came home.

........................................Linda....................................
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:41 #128

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I suspect since you are not answering any questions that you truly don't have first hand knowledge.

I know that this may be difficult for you, but stay focused, can you give us the arrest title and statute number for this "federal offense".

Since you have first hand knowledge and I would like to read about it could you please site the federal court docket number and what district it was in.

Thanks
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:43 #129

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1. Drugs are involved, federal arrest will happen.

So you don't have first hand knowledge of the incident? are you a co-defendant? or a witness for the prosecusion?
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:48 #130

J.H. shoeing wrote:
Adding my 2 cents;

In 1994, Laural Ractrack in Md, pulled that on me. You MUST take the Union test, whether you belong to the Union or not, or you do not get your racetrack licence to shoe on the backside. They do not reconized any other track licence what so ever, even Philadelphia Park which is Union. If you had Philadelphia Park licence, JHU or not; they made you take the test all over again. The stewards made that rule on me (1994); might not even apply today????? Not sure of Laural by-laws are today??

And Tom what ever the stewards say, goes on any ruling.
This is a state law, or you will be ruled off; if you do not comply, and if you are ruled off, YOU ARE RULED OFF FOR THE REST OF YOUR NATURAL LIFE!!!! You may never go on the backside of any track in any state in the US, for anything (nothing!!!!) ANYTHING for the rest of your natural life, there are NO exceptions! And this it put on your arrest record (fingerprinted and record kept at the FBI office), since this becomes a FEDERAL OFFENSE. Sometimes, there is a prison sentence up to 10 years.

This federal law ruling applies

The above is Linda's post #98

I blended two different thoughts together.

Laural SRC "Told" me I Had To Be Tested with the Union test whether I belonged to the Union or not. Even Philly Union memebers would be ReTested if they came down there. They would call the police and arrest anyone for trespassing on State property without a licence to go on the backside and if you didn't have your licence, you would be arrested for tresspassing. The track guards make sure everyone complies with having their licences on their person at all times, and your vehicle are tagged with a track ID as well with prove of insurance and registration infor is taken down as well. You may be ruled off.

Federal offence going on the backside without a licence if you HIGH on drugs and have drugs on your person. They can give anyone a drug test at any time, and if you fail, you may be arrested and can be a fine of 10K and up to 10 years in prison. Mandatory Ruled off on all US tracks in the country, arrest picture of you is put in all guard posts, cross into the backside and it is a federal offence.
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:50 #131

J.H. shoeing wrote:
1. Drugs are involved, federal arrest will happen.

So you don't have first hand knowledge of the incident? are you a co-defendant? or a witness for the prosecusion?



Not allowed to say by law.


all I can say there is a a drug problem among the backside like any other profession.
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:53 #132

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What law is that? or are you making up more stories?
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:54 #133

J.H. shoeing wrote:
I suspect since you are not answering any questions that you truly don't have first hand knowledge.

I know that this may be difficult for you, but stay focused, can you give us the arrest title and statute number for this "federal offense".

Since you have first hand knowledge and I would like to read about it could you please site the federal court docket number and what district it was in.

Thanks


not allowed to say.
best to leave things alone and don't pursue

I have nothing to do with it
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so you are really a UC just posing as a Farrier?
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RE:JHU & AFA 03 Aug 2007 02:55 #135

ladyblacksmith wrote:
Hey

You AFA guys like to tear up a JHU girl farrier!

but let me tell you one thing, gentlemen:


...................GIRLS RULE!!!!!!!! AND BOYS DROOL.....:-( :-(


OH YEAH!....................

Linda, the only thing that matters is how well you do your job. That's it, simple as that. I respect anyone that does this for a liveing. Yes, many of us tear up or get torn up on this forum, part of a disfunctional family I quess. It can get down right nasty sometimes, but weed out all the **** and their is a lot of good stuff on here. You have a lot of good points and appear to agree to disagree.

I hope you stick around. Nobody is tearing you up because your a girl farrier. We are all farriers talking to other farriers. Keep it that way.
Phil Armitage, CF
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