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As the bird flies so come the reports 04 Mar 2007 00:06 #1

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I have just heard (unofficial notice) that Rick Burten lost by an approximately 8% margin and Ron Kramedgian lost with a vote of 60/40

First congratulations to the winning candidates
and a HUGE show of respect to Ron and Rick for a long hard fought campaign.
Hopefully this will not be the last we hear from these two dynamo's.
They brought many issue's to the forefront and opened many eye's not to mention great discussion's between members.

It would be good to see these two gentlemen be asked to be a part of any commitee.
They have shown their sincere interest and desire to serve and it would be a waste to let this talent go to the wayside.

Political battles can bring out the best and the worst in candidates.
I think all the parties in this race showed HUGE heart and desire. They each traveled a road of their choice but made sure it was followed by the members
with posting on sites like this board.
This race allowed more members to think and voice opinions than in the past.

This political race really wasn't about who won or lost but more about making the AFA better and able to move forward to a better and more productive future for all its members.

Thanks to you all
Bruce
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 04 Mar 2007 00:17 #2

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Bruce,
Thanks for the news. A few of us were wondering what was going on out there. Congrats to the winners and hopefully Rick and Ron will continue to make their voices heard.
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 04 Mar 2007 00:21 #3

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Any word of the attempted impeachment of the AFA President Dave Ferguson?
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 04 Mar 2007 00:34 #4

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Brian, This is unofficial and until you hear it from the reps themselves take this only as hearsay;

Michigan chapter and Tim Quinn made a motion to have Dave Ferguson removed.
The motion was opened for discussion.
The motion failed

I again would wait for your rep to explain further.
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 04 Mar 2007 10:41 #5

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vthorseshoe wrote:
I have just heard (unofficial notice) that Rick Burten lost by an approximately 8% margin and Ron Kramedgian lost with a vote of 60/40

Bruce

Hard luck to both on getting pipped at the post.

I've kept a keen interest and watchful eye on postings here.

From what I've read both Rick and Ron had the courage of their convictions to stand up and be counted. They were honest and forthright in expressing their opinions and tried to make a difference and that is to be commended.

Thomas E Fletcher
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 04 Mar 2007 13:43 #6

Well, you all are certainly entitled to your opinions, regardless of the absence of factual basis.
Let's give some credit to the membership for getting this one right this time.
Don Richardson
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 04 Mar 2007 14:49 #7

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As a Michigan Chapter member I would like to apologize to all concerned. The motion put forth by our former President and current BOD, Tim Quinn, was voted on by our membership and passed by the smallest majority. Such are the workings of a democratic organization. Hopefully Michigan will not be considered a "Blue State" and we in the AFA can move on.

Maybe all the "Drama" is over.
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 04 Mar 2007 16:12 #8

Hopefully the message of better "Communications" has gotten across to all AFA members.
Phil Armitage, CF
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 04 Mar 2007 20:31 #9

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It takes a vote of 75% of the BoD(in this case, 38 representatives) to remove any sitting officer. On the motion to remove Dave Furgeson as President of the AFA the vote was 25 for and 25 against, so the motion failed.

I want to extend my personal congratulations here(its already been done in person)to Andrew and Dick on their election to office. Their's will not be an easy road to travel and they will be scant fair wind at their backs. I wish them well.

The board, showing an amazing clarity of foresight and ability to put their personal concerns on the back burner, voted to restructure the BoD as was proposed by the Committee to Restructure the Board. Tom Trosin did a masterful job of presenting the proposals and fielding all questions and concerns. By and overwhelming majority of over 90%, the board voted to ammend the Bylaws and usher in, berginnning in 2008, an entirely new form of representative government. Kudos and thanks to the board for stepping up and putting the greater good before other concerns.

The membership will soon be receiving information on the new regions and how the process for election of Regional Directors will take place

With that said, it is my pleasure to announce that I was nominated to run for one of the three Regional Director positions in Region 3. I have accepted that nomination.

Rick
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 05 Mar 2007 00:50 #10

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Rick Burten wrote:
It takes a vote of 75% of the BoD(in this case, 38 representatives) to remove any sitting officer. On the motion to remove Dave Furgeson as President of the AFA the vote was 25 for and 25 against, so the motion failed.
An interesting observation I had was that the vote also split the country down the middle at the Mississippi river. With a few exceptions those in the east voting "NO" and those in the west voting "YES".
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 05 Mar 2007 01:48 #11

Now that I am back on the ground and at home I have a couple of thoughts.

First, thank you to everyone that voted in this round of the AFA's political cycle. Your participation is crucial to the process.

Second, thank you to those of you that voted for me. For a guy who has only been in the AFA for a few years for me to get 300 votes was a real boost and an honor. Thank you for your trust and your support. Now however I am asking you to join me in congratulating Dick on his victory and I ask that you join me in supporting him in his term as Vice President. The AFA still faces all of the challenges that we have discussed and Dick and the rest of the AFA’s leadership are going to need all the help they can get to navigate forward.

Third, I would ask that everyone get a clue about negativity and on going personal attacks. They serve no purpose other than to damage what should be a positive process. Dick and I spent quite a lot of time talking through our issues and I hope that we have resolved our personal differences permanently. Don’t take this to mean that we are going to agree on everything because we do not, but I think we have established a positive relationship for our futures. As evidence of this Dick nominated me as a candidate for one of the 3 region 4 board of directors’ seats.

Finally I have to thank my friend Rick Burten for his unflinching support. It is a special thing to have good and honorable friends and I consider Rick one.

My congratulations to Andrew on his victory and I'll look forward to seeing what he does with the convention next year.

Again thank you all for everything, now I am going to take a vacation with my wife. Talk to you all when I get back and get caught up.
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 05 Mar 2007 02:04 #12

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Have a super vacation with your wife, Ron.
Stay safe and have some fun. :D You've both earned it.
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 05 Mar 2007 02:09 #13

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Gary,
Could you clarify a little bit, how did the vote go east to stay and west to get rid of? Is that what your saying?
George
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 05 Mar 2007 02:31 #14

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The vote was a "Roll Call" vote. With most board members from the east voting for Dave to stay and most members from the west voting for him to go.


I was glade to see the vote happen. The BOD took up the issue discussed it at lenght, well over and hour, and voted.

This is what we wanted, and no matter where you stood on the issue it now time to let go and move forward.
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RE:As the bird flies so come the reports 05 Mar 2007 19:59 #15

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Thank you Rick for the kind words, but as I said, board restructuring was Rick Garrison's horse, I just rode it in and I thank Rick G. as I thank you, Don, David, Dale, Mike and Mr. Small.
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