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TOPIC: EC asks for Ferguson's resignation

RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 26 Jan 2007 00:51 #76

Mr. Childs-
"It could be that the only agenda John is trying to forward here is the welfare of the AFA. As I look at all the horses in this race, I can’t get a good enough angle to determine if they’re all wearing an AFA brand or not…. "


Mr. Burten-
"So you are accusing the candidates of not having the best interests of the AFA at heart?"

Kinda defensive ain't we Rick?
I didn't take it as an accusationat all... more of a personal observation to me... which.. last I checked was still protected by the 1st Amendment.

But if the shoe fits......which... in my not always so well-respected opinion means....
I don't think you have a clue what the AFA ought to be about.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 26 Jan 2007 00:58 #77

Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:
Since Mr. K is not a CJF, but a CJF credential is a requirement to hold the office of president, what happens if both Mr. K and Mr. Burten are elected and, for whatever reason, Mr. Burten does not serve out his term? .

So Ronny can't do the job no matter how much he'd like it.
Don Richardson
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 26 Jan 2007 01:04 #78

And I have another question.
IF the AFA was so intent on retaining Ink and Anvil, why did they contact another publisher on MORE than one ocassion prior to Ink and Anvil's supposed breech of the contract... and uh... by the way... where's my AFA magazine that was SUPPOSED to be bigger and better and on time in November?

Oh yeah.... where's my convention program too?
Don Richardson
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 26 Jan 2007 01:19 #79

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sweetbranchforge wrote:
And I have another question.
IF the AFA was so intent on retaining Ink and Anvil, why did they contact another publisher on MORE than one ocassion prior to Ink and Anvil's supposed breech of the contract... and uh... by the way... where's my AFA magazine that was SUPPOSED to be bigger and better and on time in November?

Oh yeah.... where's my convention program too?
Don, Why don't you ask Mr. Ferguson?
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 26 Jan 2007 01:43 #80

Gary_Miller wrote:
Don, Why don't you ask Mr. Ferguson?

Well, it's pretty simple really... I've seen and heard the man in action.
And I have a fairly extreme personal aversion (allergy actually) to male bovine excrement... which is what he spews to your face then says otherwise after you're out of earshot.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 26 Jan 2007 04:10 #81

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danverschild wrote:
The “standard” for the association would be the Bylaws, and there’s nothing there about a performance review for the President or any other elected officer. We could pull plenty of arbitrary standards from the hot air around us, but we’d just be pulling things out of the air and making things up as we go.

I think the standards of conduct should be enough.

AMERICAN FARRIER’S ASSOCIATION, INC. BYLAWS
ARTICLE XIV. STANDARDS OF CONDUCT
The American Farrier's Association as represented by the Officers, Board of Directors, and members, has the responsibility of conducting itself in a businesslike and professional manner when dealing with colleagues, businesses, and other equine professionals. An obligation exists to set a standard of conduct befitting the professional farrier. The actions of the American Farrier's Association are expected to enhance the honor and dignity of the farrier profession, expand the base of professional knowledge of farriery and render service to the community.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 30 Jan 2007 22:02 #82

sweetbranchforge wrote:
...where's my AFA magazine that was SUPPOSED to be bigger and better and on time in November?

Oh yeah.... where's my convention program too?

Don,

I responded to a similar question from a different Don on the AFA Members Only section this a.m., and I'll copy that post below. The short answer to part one of your question is that Professional Farrier is at the printer. The short answer to part two is that your convention program will be at convention waiting on you as always. I'm not involved in producing any of the convention materials, but I know that Rob and the other folks at Sebastian Publishing are working to get them ready.

response below copied from AFA Members Only site....

I have heard that the AFA is coming up with a new mag to send out to it's memebers.
Due to changing publishers and this and that I figured that it would take sometime for it to get here. Yet no mag.
Has anybody else had this problem? Or did I get taken off the mailing list?
Just wondering what's going on.
Don

Hey Don,

I'll try to provide some information on what's going on. First of all, it's not really a "new" magazine; it's still the AFA's magazine, Professional Farrier. It is new in a sense, though, as we've pretty much had to re-create it from scratch.

The previous publisher and the AFA had a bit of a falling out. Subsequently, the association had to find a new publisher (Sebastian Publishing) and that new publisher had to gear up to produce the newly acquired publication.

What Sebastian Publishing took on, then, was a magazine that had no advertising copy, no editorial copy, no support material in the file cabinet, no articles in development, no templates for layout & design, no archive of art, images, and photos, etc., etc. In the print world, that typically means a bare minimum of at least six months of development from a full-time staff.

Fortunately, Sebastian has been working hard to ensure that it's not going to take that long. They contacted me and asked that I serve as Managing Editor, and I started producing editorial content and contacting authors and potential authors. They contacted my colleague, April Raine at iHorseshoe, to develop art and to do the layout & design. And Rob Edwards, at Sebastian, started contacting advertisers to re-generate the advertising base.

Because things were in some disarray, the task of re-generating the advertising base was the most daunting, and Rob contracted with another company, SID Graphics, to work on advertising materials, and the whole process went like this....

I generated editorial materials and sent them to April, who put them together into a layout--minus advertising--which got sent to SID, who developed and placed the advertising. And now it's at the printer and on the presses.

In the midst of all that, Rob was coordinating with the EC and the FIA folks, as well as with the rest of us. Somewhere in there, we did all the normal magazine stuff of copy editing and so forth. Meanwhile, Rob, April and I are developing the Mar/Apr issue of Professional Farrier and Rob and SID are developing the AFA's Convention Program.

For the moment, it seems like quite the clustermuck, but the end result will be good. The AFA will have asserted much more ownership over its magazine and everything will end up running more smoothly once we've weathered the initial storm.

And the real beauty of it all is the willingness of the folks in the AFA and the FIA to step up and produce for this association! Nobody's had a contract to work from; Sebastian stepped up and took on a daunting task; April raided her files and the iHorseshoe filing cabinets to generate images; every author I contacted stepped up and worked in double time to get materials generated; the EC and the AFA Office worked to coordinate efforts.... All in all, it's been a true group effort to produce a magazine in short order. And the next issue will go a lot smoother!!!
~~Danvers

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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 31 Jan 2007 00:47 #83

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Danvers, Thanks for all the hard work and the same to everybody else who has had a hand in it. I can only Imagine the difficulty of trying to put a quality magazine out in that short a time. It will work out for the best we should have been in more control of our magazine in the first place, especially after the Journal deal. Oh well hind sight.... Thanks again.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 31 Jan 2007 03:21 #84

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Let me also add my thanks and congratulations to you and Sebastian House Publishers. I know what you faced and your efforts have been nothing short of Herculean.

While we may clash at times, it changes not one bit the respect I have for what you have done and continue to do on behalf of the AFA.

I only hope that the Sebastian House ship of state is a 64 gun war ship so that it is able to repel any attempt at piracy and hijacking by the Ink&Anvil Barbary Coast pirates. Perhaps that scurilous lot should look to history to remind themselves of what happend to their predecessors.

Rick
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