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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 17 Jan 2007 22:48 #16

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Hey Guys,
As a non-member I, like Patty really don't care anymore about who is President of the AFA anymore than I do who's the mayor of New York City.

You guys comparing this to presidential politics is getting a bit overly dramatic here. It is however a lesson in democracy in action. People did vote for Barrabbas also lets not forget.

When I held a membership I too agreed that Dave Ferguson and John Blombach were entitled to a chance.

I think it only fair that they should now be evaluated after the one year mark. So, what can we point to as accomplishments?

1) They presided over a ridiculous and impossible to justify dues increase.

2) They lost medical insurance

3) They ran off 2 EDs

4) They lost a magazine

5) They lost membership largely due to things that were their own fault.

I know guys I know, you'll all tell me I shouldn't tar John Blombach that way. Problem is he stood joined at the hip to Dave Ferguson during their memorable "anti-licensing" campaign. Wait, on second thought, perhaps they can be credited with that.

We have no licensing. Well we never had it before them either so I dont know. Actually I see nothing positive that theyve accomplished for that group in the past year so maybe they can be credited with that. Ok, thanks to them we have no licensing.

Can anybody out there point to anything noteworthy that they've accomplished? I for one would like to know. And lets not blame everything on the EC, BOD, past presidents or anything else. None of that is any excuse.

IMO these guys wanted the office for their resumes. Careful what you ask for, you might just get it.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 00:36 #17

Hi ALL...

I was told at least 2 members of the EC had not and did not sign this letter!! Mr. Nolan sent it out without their okay... Dave was also not privy to the meetings discussing him... I hope Nolan leaves soon!!

thanks Bunny
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 03:00 #18

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Bunny,

Where ya' been that you don't know?

It has been repeatedly reported, and is published both here and on the AFA website main page, that Mr. Nolan's last day with the AFA was Monday, 15January2007.

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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 03:15 #19

6) They ran off 3 examiners
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 03:34 #20

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7) And at least one tester.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 04:23 #21

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Rick,
Shouldn't there be a tally of BOD who did sign and a tally of BOD who didn't sign the resignation paper ? and shouldn't this be made available to the members ?

If this is a falsified do***ent, then that really should disturb more than just a few members.

I also find it hard to fathom that Mr. Nolan alledgedly did this on his own.
I also find it hard to fathom someone doesn't know who and how many culprits are alledgedly involved.

With the additional info from you and Roy the picture get worse with each day.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 05:41 #22

NorthBayFarriers wrote:

I was told at least 2 members of the EC had not and did not sign this letter!! Mr. Nolan sent it out without their okay... Dave was also not privy to the meetings discussing him... I hope Nolan leaves soon!!

thanks Bunny

Bunny you are good at slinging mud, but not very good with facts. All five members of the Executive Committee (Bob Earle, John Blombach, Walt Taylor, Tom Trosin and Craig Trnka) approved the resolution.

Since the resolution was sent, Mr. Blomback has suffered a case of buyer's remorse, but there are witnesses to his approval of the resolution during a conference call on January 8, 2007. Who is your other alleged non-signing member?

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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 05:45 #23

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vthorseshoe wrote:
Rick,
Shouldn't there be a tally of BOD who did sign and a tally of BOD who didn't sign the resignation paper ?
There has been, to my knowledge, no action by the BoD. The request for resignation came from the other members of the EC(VP, Secretary, Treasurer, and BoD rep) and was sent to Mr. Ferguson and cc'd to the BoD.
I state for the record that I have not seen a copy of the e-mail, but have only been apprised of its contents and the names of those who signed the do***ent. Subsequent to its mailing, at least one signator has tried to crawfish away from being party to the e-mail and has demanded his name be removed from the e-mail. Not exactly a shining example of the kind of leadership the AFA either wants or needs, is it?
and shouldn't this be made available to the members ?
Yes it should! Along with all the sordid details from that episode and that which ensued.
If this is a falsified do***ent, then that really should disturb more than just a few members.
I do not believe that this do***ent is false or erroneous. IMNTBCHO, that claim is a red herring meant to mislead the membership regarding the actions of some members of the EC. Want more of the same? Well you/we(the AFA collective) have a chance to vote for it when your ballot arrives in the mail. Want something different? Then you/we have the chance to vote for that too. Again, JMNTBCHO.

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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 13:37 #24

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Rick,
This is what is confuseing.

I will not name anyone, but I have been told 2 different versions of the same story now.
Not calling either one false, but with the preceeding history of the last yr. Just how do I know who ta he-- to believe anymore ?

I "know" you tell it straight from the hip and check your info .
I have know the other source for a lot of yrs.

I do know that with all that has happened, I am one confused puppy.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 13:45 #25

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A question for Tom Trosin as the BOD represenative to the EC.

Seeing that the EC signed the do***ent requesting the resignation of Mr. Fergunson.

And seeing that he has refused to resign.

Will the issue of removing Mr. Ferguson be on the agenda for the BOD meeting On Febuary 28, 2007?
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 17:13 #26

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Gary_Miller wrote:
A question for Tom Trosin as the BOD represenative to the EC.

Seeing that the EC signed the do***ent requesting the resignation of Mr. Fergunson.

And seeing that he has refused to resign.

Will the issue of removing Mr. Ferguson be on the agenda for the BOD meeting On Febuary 28, 2007?

Yes, to my knowledge it has been submitted for the agenda I am not quite certain which chapter has submitted it tho.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 17:19 #27

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NorthBayFarriers wrote:
Hi ALL...

Dave was also not privy to the meetings discussing him...

thanks Bunny

Just to clarify, the President has been "privy" to all meetings of the EC. There have been no meeting of the EC where the President was not informed. He is in the same email loop that I have been in.

Bunny I am a phone call away and always have been. I'm not that hard to find.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 17:32 #28

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Aw Goerge you lovable socialist
George Geist wrote:
When I held a membership I too agreed that Dave Ferguson and John Blombach were entitled to a chance.

I think it only fair that they should now be evaluated after the one year mark. So, what can we point to as accomplishments?

1) They presided over a ridiculous and impossible to justify dues increase.
Which was placed under Craig Trnka's administration
2) They lost medical insurance
Which was discontinued by the BoD while Craig Trnka was in office
3) They ran off 2 EDs
Bryan Quinsey was repportedly circulating resumes prior to last years convention
4) They lost a magazine
We'll not touch that one
5) They lost membership largely due to things that were their own fault.
1 fn percent George, your beloved IJHU dumped more california platers when it left and did way more damage.
I know guys I know, you'll all tell me I shouldn't tar John Blombach that way. Problem is he stood joined at the hip to Dave Ferguson during their memorable "anti-licensing" campaign.
You find me one piece of paper one email one anything where John and Dave were joined and I will beleive it. Till then I don't recall John and Dave running any type of "joint campagin

IMO these guys wanted the office for their resumes. Careful what you ask for, you might just get it.
George

You think what you want, but you are attempting to vilify John Blombach who has done nothing but work his A$$ off for the AFA since I have known him. He has kept his head level and pointed in the right direction. He has also taken on tasks that were not his job just so they would get done.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 18 Jan 2007 21:18 #29

George I have to speak up about John, you really should take the time to get to know John in person if you havent already.

John Blombach is one of the best people I have gotten to know in this trade treats everyone with respect. He is honest, hard working and a good person. Every time I have talked to John about AFA issues he is positive and passionate about the association. The last time I talked to John, he told me he sees a bright future for the AFA. John does a lot for the trade, especially in the area of farrier education. Every SNEFA meeting I have attended we have had great guest speakers. He is willing to help any farrier. I have nothing but respect for the man and happy to call him a friend. He did not run for office to put something on his resume. He ran to help, because he is a doer and dedicated loyal member. He is a level headed person with a positive attitude and the AFA is lucky to have him.
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RE:EC asks for Ferguson's resignation 19 Jan 2007 01:38 #30

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As I thought about George's earlier response, it dawned on me that he is wrong when he says that we lost a magazine. We did not loose a magazine, we rid ourselves of a disloyal, ill-tempered, uncooperative, publisher who then like a pirate, raided the AFA's magazine and hijacked what should have been the content of the Nov/Dec 2006 PF magazine and published it under the guise of his new rag.

Edward Teach(aka: Blackbeard, had litte to nothing on this guy). JMNTBCHO

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