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TOPIC: is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters?

RE:is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 05 Jan 2012 01:44 #16

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Ramey can apologise till the cows come home; won't make a bit of difference.
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RE:is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 05 Jan 2012 01:55 #17

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Bill Adams wrote:
Pete Ramey didn't come up with anything new either. He was a rather poor shoer (hadn't learned to pull clips and all that stuff, per his statements) who found an easer way to make a living and a market to sell his "new" product. A friend went to one of his clinics recently and said that Mr. Ramey started his program with an apology to all Farriers for the bad mouthing he had been dishing out over the years, and that now he sees the need and help from correct shoeing.


If that is true then that is the best comment I have read in a long time. In my opinion. some horses can be barefoot but others need shoes. Everything in between is debatable.

Pete has commented on this site recently, so perhaps he will weigh in here.....
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RE:is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 05 Jan 2012 11:06 #18

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reillyshoe wrote:
. . .Pete has commented on this site recently, so perhaps he will weigh in here.....
Why would he do that? If he wants credibility he can join the AAPF.
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Here's the deal. I'm trying to keep it simple.
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RE:is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 06 Jan 2012 05:36 #19

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tbloomer wrote:
Why would he do that? If he wants credibility he can join the AAPF.

Think of all the CE credit he'd get for all the clinics he's been at.

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 06 Jan 2012 11:52 #20

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Bill Adams wrote:
Think of all the CE credit he'd get for all the clinics he's been at.
Indeed. He went from failure at farriery to author, clinician, guru, and certifying authority. Somebody ought to respect those achievements.
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RE:is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 06 Jan 2012 17:50 #21

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Tom, we've got our very own one of those DownUnder! :rolleyes:
Rachael :)
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RE:is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 06 Jan 2012 19:10 #22

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Rachael Kane wrote:
Tom, we've got our very own one of those DownUnder! :rolleyes:

Whodat Rachael?
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Re: RE:is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 14 Feb 2012 13:07 #23

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Re: RE:is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 14 Feb 2012 19:06 #24

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Gday Owen
Nice to see you pokin about here again olson

On the note of the ops question I think we can learn something about anything from anyone anytime we take time to look n listen
albeit the way we do a job , act or treat a person or animal or react to a situation good or bad
Ive said enough about Hoofters on here n otherwise to the point it got me ugly I think
My fault I recon I was to keen to help n sort of teach n didnt realise I was givin away my cream sad part also was I was givin away that of other hard workin Farriers in my area as well n to these fellers I apologize wholeheartedly
To the Farrier trimming is cream and often what helps us to be able to further our and often the apprentice some of us my employ and help teach the Art and craft of treating the horse in the holistic trade of traditional Farriery
Ive had it said to me when Ive touted Traditional Farriery that it in some way implied archaic or backward but when I pointed out that Farriery had been around for such a long time and just as everything else in life had gotten better with new n better methods of application through improved technologies
and Farriery has stood the test of time and WILL do so for a bloody long time to come and will only ever continue to improve for the benifite of the horse in his work n play how could anyone but a fool say anything contradictory particularly the ingrate hoofter that most of us were good enough to teach in the first place
Funny thing is I dont ever remember ingratitude n disloyalty being something that I tought
wered they learn that ?
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Re: is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 15 Feb 2012 02:49 #25

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How are ya Red mate. I'm not on here for long.Forums are not my thing.I kinda dont have the tact nor people skills.Hate all the having to talk in a way I dont in the real world.You know having to be nice to every body When the real me is a nasty old old basted who would knock you on your backside rather then give you a kind smile.As for theses bare foot jokers i wouldn't urinate on the buggers if they where on fire.They have stuffed the farrier trade.How many pups want to spend 4 year learning the trade now.well ill tell ya you can count them on oneand & why would they want to take the hard track when they can do a two day Bs course & be on their bike the next day making a qwid.Those basted Bare footers need to learn how to duck if they ever knock on my door again.Id rather let a snake in coz thems less slimmy then them buggers.
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Re: is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 15 Feb 2012 04:57 #26

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owen charles wrote:
How are ya Red mate. I'm not on here for long.Forums are not my thing.I kinda dont have the tact nor people skills.Hate all the having to talk in a way I dont in the real world.You know having to be nice to every body When the real me is a nasty old old basted who would knock you on your backside rather then give you a kind smile.
Sounds like you'd fit in fine.
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Re: is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 22 Mar 2012 16:36 #27

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Interesting article in the new publication of "Farrier's Journal no.154". A press release from the french farrier's union (UFM) - The End of the 'Natural" trimmers Phenomenon.

Talks about the pseudo-natural trimmers. The origin of barefoot trimming, its enaction with within the french farriery trade, the new AUS brumby research bringing clarity to environmental issues, legal cases pending due to laming of horses due to individuals exacting specific named barefoot trims, the dropping of prices causing economic issues for mainstream farriers. The issues within a highly skilled trade getting a knocking from unqualified individuals that are poorly trained compared to the mainstream farriery business.

Basically now the french lawmakers have ammended their rural code, so that aside from vets only farriers qualified to level 5 diploma can trim equids feet.

Well, the french are a very protectionist lot indeed!, and they have done something about it. The french veterinarians backed them.

I wonder how this example will follow itself around the Eurozone?.

Regards,
P J Falvey CF
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Re: is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 23 Mar 2012 02:49 #28

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This is very interesting to read.

my 2 cents worth ;)
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Re: is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 23 Mar 2012 11:59 #29

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Through the years, I have become acquainted with a select few barefoot only trimmers who have a wealth of knowledge on many horse related subjects. From them I have indeed learned and I would like to think that they, in return, have learned from me. When they were able to suspend their 'BUAtista' mentality, if even for only a short time, we were able to talk on what I would consider a professional level. Now before you(the collective) bite my head off, remember, I did say that this only occurred with a select few.

I rather miss the presence of Denise and Gwen here on the forums. Though she's not a BUAtista, I'm also sorry that Patty Stiller no longer posts here though I understand why she made that decision.
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Re: is there anything useful for a farrier to learn from barefooters? 24 Mar 2012 15:37 #30

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Paddy wrote:

Basically now the french lawmakers have ammended their rural code, so that aside from vets only farriers qualified to level 5 diploma can trim equids feet.

Well, the french are a very protectionist lot indeed!, and they have done something about it. The french veterinarians backed them.

I wonder how this example will follow itself around the Eurozone?.

Regards,
P J Falvey CF
That's excellent news! Best thing I've heard come out of that country. Hopefully more countries will follow their progressive lead :)
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