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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 16 Sep 2009 23:04 #46

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Don't bang on me guys, but I actually do agree with irishcas on this one. I am a softy for all animals. I rehabed a couple dove this summer that the dog had got a hold of, and took a raccoon that was caught at one of the barns I shoe at. They were gonna shoot it, so I took and released him. I enjoy and respect all animals. As for humans, well we just won't get into that.

I am a carnivore though. Could never raise something then kill and eat it.
I have 8 dogs, 2 pigs and a bunch of barn cats running around. Not to mention all the homes i try to find for all the animals clients try to get rid of.

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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 16 Sep 2009 23:48 #47

cowboy_bc OFFLINE Master Posts: 1030 Karma: 0	Gary Hill wrote: Here is a perfect example of the "Simpletons" of the world. Mom on cell phone watching her kid walk around, and he's wondering "why me?" She's just worried some far sighted Jockey is gonna saddle her up
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 16 Sep 2009 23:57 #48

Tom Stovall CJF OFFLINE Master Posts: 3882 Thank you received: 1 Karma: 0	cowboy_bc in gray She's just worried some far sighted Jockey is gonna saddle her up She looks like she wintered good, so she'd probably be happier wearing a collar instead of a saddle.
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 12:34 #49

irishcas OFFLINE Master Posts: 1708 Thank you received: 1 Karma: 0	Another case to prove my point http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMR_pOrsBsE
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 12:58 #50

Gary Hill OFFLINE Guru Posts: 5298 Thank you received: 6 Karma: 4	Kim , I see your point, he moved like he has a set of boots on that are rubbing his coronary ,because his owner is too stubborn to get him shod.
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 13:13 #51

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What people don't understand is that our whole economy is agricultural.
Our economy runs the rest of the world, making us a super power in the world.

Every one of us in the entire USA "lives" or makes our wages from the horse racing industry!!

Pennsylvania makes per year 2009 alone an estimated $10 BILLION profit from the horse industry.

People who's jobs depend on US, the horseman, to be able to provide for their families.

Case in point:
It takes a MINIMUM of 4,000 employees to run "one" race track; where is be TB, Harness, Arab, QH, or App racetracks in this country, alone.
This does not include the breeding farms, the show world, or even the back yard family pet.

This industry employs large animal vets and large animal vet hopitals and all of their employees to run that hospital, all the vet schools in the country, and including the colleges that support Equine studies degrees; and the approx: 30,000 farriers, not including the trimmers; farrier supply houses, the large animal repro experts, equine barn managers, trainers including the show trainers, grooms, hotwalkers, ect,; the feed companies; and the fencing and barn builders, the construction crews, the electricians for the barns; plumbers, ect; the farm real estate across the USA; the steel manufactures who make shoes, all the large animal drug companies and the research from the chemistists and biologists; and the managers hired to do the MASSIVE paper work involved in recording all the papers and registries for all these horses; and the equine appraisers, ect.
Also let's not forget the American farmer who makes ALL the hay and straw
for the equine industry.

With out horse racing; there would be no American economy.

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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 14:03 #52

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ladyblacksmith wrote:

What people don't understand is that our whole economy is agricultural.

Many parts but not the whole.

ladyblacksmith wrote:

Our economy runs the rest of the world, making us a super power in the world.

That and our military power makes us the super power.

ladyblacksmith wrote:

Every one of us in the entire USA "lives" or makes our wages from the horse racing industry!!

With out horse racing; there would be no American economy.

With this statement I have to respectfully disagree. While horse race does effect some parts of the economy it is by no means the whole of the economy. Horse raceing could go away and the effect on the economy would be slight.

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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 14:50 #53

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Gary_Miller wrote:

Many parts but not the whole.

That and our military power makes us the super power.

With this statement I have to respectfully disagree. While horse race does effect some parts of the economy it is by no means the whole of the economy. Horse raceing could go away and the effect on the economy would be slight.

Sorry dear Gary,
but the effect would be on a grand scale.
read above what I posted. it effects more than people realize.

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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 15:54 #54

halfmiler OFFLINE Senior Member Posts: 338 Karma: 0	many towns rely on the racing industry. the negitive effect would be enourmous.
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 17:40 #55

ladyblacksmith OFFLINE Master Posts: 1436 Karma: 0	halfmiler wrote: many towns rely on the racing industry. the negitive effect would be enourmous. You are so right, and it was I was trying to say. Thank you.
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 17:51 #56

halfmiler OFFLINE Senior Member Posts: 338 Karma: 0	ladyblacksmith wrote: You are so right, and it was I was trying to say. Thank you. you are quite welcome. i know for one charlestown as a town would roll the carpets up if the track ever closed. schools here would go back to being ****,taxes would go back up..it just would be a disaster. not to mention the nearly 5000 jobs that would be lost.
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 18:19 #57

cowboy_bc OFFLINE Master Posts: 1030 Karma: 0	Tom Stovall, CJF wrote: cowboy_bc in gray She's just worried some far sighted Jockey is gonna saddle her up She looks like she wintered good, so she'd probably be happier wearing a collar instead of a saddle. Easy keeper for sure.
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 19:51 #58

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halfmiler wrote:

you are quite welcome. i know for one charlestown as a town would roll the carpets up if the track ever closed. schools here would go back to being ****,taxes would go back up..it just would be a disaster. not to mention the nearly 5000 jobs that would be lost.

People will find other jobs. Someone's livelihood should not rely on another beings being put to inhumane use.

And please before you all start going on and on about animal rights and welfare. Think of how many people's lives are destroyed due to the drugs and gambling that are tied to racing.

It is blood money.

Kim Cassidy
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 19:57 #59

halfmiler OFFLINE Senior Member Posts: 338 Karma: 0	my point is,that if racing was closed there is a sh1tload of towns that WOULD NOT have the revenue to remain,if there is no money,business start to close then what are people gonan do for jobs? many many other business rely on the racing industry just as much as the people that work in the racing industry. my humble opinion is you need to come back to the real world.
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RE:A R people at it again, Down Under! 17 Sep 2009 20:05 #60

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halfmiler wrote:

my point is,that if racing was closed there is a sh1tload of towns that WOULD NOT have the revenue to remain,if there is no money,business start to close then what are people gonan do for jobs? many many other business rely on the racing industry just as much as the people that work in the racing industry.

my humble opinion is you need to come back to the real world.

I'd agree with this and add that in my experience the health of racing tends to be an accurate barometer of the health of the entire horse industry in states that have racing.

Is truly unfortunate that the horse industry is as fragmented as it is but for those few who can see the whole picture the whole thing is interdependent.

Places such as Charles Town WV do indeed depend on it for more than just their horsemen. That whole town is dependent on the track to the point that it would become an old west style ghost town if the track ever closed as recognized by their own state legislature a few years ago.
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