http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N6psav2SPU

To bad you didn't have something that could have contributed to the discussion in a positive way.

It was positive to me.
Until you can completely censor Rick and his ilk, you should sue him.

I loved it Rick! :cool:

Ronald E. Kramedjian wrote:What discussion? I started a new thread so as not to disrupt any of the ones already on-going.

I liked the parody and it seems to have struck a responsive chord not only here but elsewhere people have heard it.

The truth, regardless of how its delivered, is still and absolute defense.

In order to fulfill the requirements for this forum, I think the issues in the song are reflected in the antics of one of our national farrier organizations.

Good song with a lot of truth.

Truth?

Hmmm. Let's see.

Bush and the rep.s didn't flush a suplus in the federal budget that would have paid off the national debt.

They didn't violate the law and international treaties by torturing human beings.

They didn't pass the largest unfunded Medicare mandate in history. You know the drug benifit that is mostly responsable for bankrupting the Medicare fund.

They didn't start a war of choice based on a set of lies thus being directly responsable for the murders of thousands of American service members.

One thing they didn't do was fly hyjacked airliners full of people , who were mostly Americans into our own buildings! Iraq yeah big mistake, but all of a sudden they are getting their combat aircraft back from where they were hidden? The next four years can't go by fast enought for me, but one thing for sure this experiment in presidency won't happen again? Almost every person I know that voted him in, said it was a mistake. Not a whole lot of people admit it now. Wonder why?

As per usual it's the past for liberals instead of the present. You watch to much Rachel and Olberman:eek:

REAL ****** would be breaking of bones and de-knuckling hands. Ask John McCain.............

No comparisom to the Health Care bill, $10 Trillion versus $20 billion

Most libs, at the time, voted for the war. Would you like to deflect more planes and bombings here in America or fight the SOBs over there?
The tactical plan was executed to draw insurgents to central areas of conflict instead of your backyard Ron:rolleyes:

Ronald E. Kramedjian wrote:
If this is true then why are we still fighting a war? What is interesting to me is how the current administration transfered troops from Iraq to Afghanistan and continues to send more troops to fight the war on terror including into Iraq. As this is occurring the media and Hollywood just sits idly by. All I see is hypocrisy and double standard. If George Bush and the republicans are war criminals, then so are all the Democrats.

All I see is a bunch of self serving over reactive politicians and media. On things like rising fuel costs, economy, environmental issues and deceases (Swine Flue). Either this is all a bunch of incompetent over reactive personality's or intentional acts of scare tactics. I suspect it is incompetence.

Ronald E. Kramedjian wrote:Nor has anyone else, American or otherwise done such a thing. Ever. You mean like Kennedy who really got us started in Viet Nam, or Johnson and his famous "Gulf of Tonkin incident" which was his excuse, based on lies, to be directly responsible for the murders of thousands of American service men and women? And let us never forget that the US never signed the Geneva Accords.

Sorry Ron, but that dog won't hunt.

Hussain Obama is a good snake oil saleman - can sell ice to polar bears. He is a smooth talker who isn't and can't be honest with the American people. The biggest problem is we need to get rid of both the donkeys and the elephants. Get some third parties in office and get give the people a chance.

Mr. Perry,

While I normally ignore your ranting as the ignorant blathering that is, the following things need to be corrected before one of your sycophants think that you are actually saying something intelligent.

Jaye Perry wrote:This statement is almost too funny for words considering that Mr. McCain has been an outspoken critic of the Bush administrations policies on ****** and especially focused on water boarding. If you are going to claim a source to authenticate your position you really should be sure that they are on your side,.

Jaye Perry wrote:Before I actually accuse you of being a liar, I will ask you to post a link to the CBO scoring that actually yields a number of this magnitude. Should you not be able to, your opinion should be publicly withdraw or you will be known for what you are.

Jaye Perry wrote:I have been vocally against the war in Iraq since long before it started and stated clearly that there was no proof to back the claims of WMD long before the war started. I was proven to be right and the Bush administration was proven to be populated with liars.

Now I will return to my continued disregard for your postings and opinions.

Rick Burten wrote:Hmmm.

As I recall it was President Eisenhower who introduced us to Vietnam. But the real problem started long before the introduction of advisors. Ho Chi Min approached the US for support in his war against the French. He was not a Communist at the time of his request. The US refused. He turned to the communist Chinese and the Russians for support. Of course he had to become a communist to get it. So being the good leader that he was to help his people he made the choice to do so. And so it was the US’s short sightedness that created that mess in the first place.

beslagsmed wrote:
Hi all,

In my neck of the woods that third party is called the NDP how about we send them on down and we'll even throw in the Liberals for good measure.