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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 16 Aug 2009 00:43 #346

Phil Armitage wrote:
I don't know by who. Maybe it was Smitty's humor? :D

Kwantlen University Collage is impressive.
He's a funny Guy.
The Collage, yea that is why I try telling every one about it every chance I get.
Awesome Farrier Training center, on a new campas.
Next time I'm down, I will take loads of photos.


Rick Burten wrote:
Bradley,

I know I'm somewhat older than you and that the teaching of mathematics when I was in school may have changed later on. However, my math shows that 36 weeks = 9 months and vice versa. Have I missed something or is it like the difference in the currency exchange rate between our two countries. :confused:

lol, Metric ???

I was wondering if any one would notice. lol

And if your older than me then you are old . . . :D

I think I need to chill, your the second guy this week that I talked old to. :p
Bradley SaintJohn

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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 16 Aug 2009 01:12 #347

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Bradley-1stChoice wrote:
And if your older than me then you are old . . . :D
Chronologically I'm into my third try at the 20's.:eek: :)

Physically, I'm three days older than dirt....:o
Rick Burten PF

In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 16 Aug 2009 08:26 #348

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Bradley-1stChoice wrote:
Huh . . . by who ????? :confused:
Now . . .
Kwantlen University Collage
36 weeks of Top School in North America
Gerard Laverty Instructor CJF AFA-Therapeutic Endorsement

How many schools go that long ?????

Not many if any.
Even Olds Collage in Alberta is only 9 months. :D
According to their syllabus the course duration is 36 weeks yielding 432 hours. Made up of 1, 2, or 3 credit our courses. Classroom/labs 12 hours a week for 36 weeks. Typical full time "college" credit hour load. Actual time in class is 2.4 hours/day based on 12 credit hours over a 5 day week.

KHS 22 week course yielding 990 hours. Classroom/labs 45 hours/week for 22 weeks. Not a college environment. Actual time in class is 9 hours/day over a 5 day week.

I didn't look at the Olds College syllabus. But compared to the others, Olds College is the Top School - on the map of North America. :p


I guess "it depends" on how you look at it.
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Here's the deal. I'm trying to keep it simple.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 16 Aug 2009 16:28 #349

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Bradley, a full time 12 week private course offers the same or more hours as most college 36 week courses that are part time. That's why the private schools do not have to be as "long" as a college course, they are more intense in less time.
Even the 8 week private schools offer twice or more the hours than a full sememster college part time course.
And the students will probably be physically fitter when they get out of a full time course.
Schooling and physically shoeing five days a week 8 hours a day will also quickly weed out the weak or unmotivated ones from the serious ones, too.
Patty Stiller CNBF,CLS
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 17 Aug 2009 14:43 #350

Rick Burten wrote:
Chronologically I'm into my third try at the 20's.:eek: :)

Physically, I'm three days older than dirt....:o

Is that the 1920's !!!!!!!!! Dear Ricky
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 17 Aug 2009 19:39 #351

Good afternoon guys and gals. I got back a few days ago and the guys here threw a little party for me. They got on-line and thought they would have a little fun. Of course, after I read it I was a little shocked. I think they were having a little fun with Rick Burten. But anyway, it was all in fun, so don’t any body take it too hard.

Mr. Hinson, thank you for your comment and you are absolutely correct. I have travelled all over the U.S. and abroad and I get the same comments. A majority of farriers do not want to join a farrier association because of farriers like Rick Burten, and sorry about that Rick but the truth is the truth. You are probably a very educated man. But you insult people, criticize how they spell, how they think, in other words, you are damn rude. You wouldn't believe how many people don't want to join a farrier association or get on this website because of your type of attitude. You are rude, crude and try to undermine the simplest of comments.

I reviewed the questions the boys put up. I don't know if you have gone over all of the questions in the AFA pool of test questions, but passing gait is one of them. So I guess you are throwing off on the AFA now? I thought you were a member.

You got me a little ticked and I will tell you why. There are a lot of farriers who are members of the AFA and BWFA who come here to volunteer their time to research the simplest hoof related problems. They have spent hours upon hours without pay to not only better themselves but to improve the industry as a whole. No, they do not get on the internet and boost, they don't write articles, but the majorities are real good farriers and a credit to their profession. I am not the only person working here. How a man of your educational background can run down a group of hard working farriers is beyond me.

I have been nice enough to invite any of you down to the research center to spend some time. I don't know how much nicer I can be than that. I did not invite anyone down here to insult them, undermine or belittle them, or whatever you want to call it.

I came on here to answer questions the best I could in hope to clarify the misunderstandings about the BWFA. I did not come on here to impress everyone with my vocabulary. I have tried to be as professional and as honest as I can. If you would like me to continue, I would be glad to, but I don't want to be part of a rock throwing contest.

You asked me once, how has the AFA hurt the BWFA membership. In my opinion, it is not the AFA as a whole, Rick, and I think Mr. Hinson answered that question for you, because Mr. Hinson has no desire to join either one of the farrier associations. Get it?
His quote: "After reading comments on this website, it reenforced my reason for never joining the union, AFA, or any other "farrier" organization".

Maybe you need to get out of your little circle of people who think like you and ask the general farrier what they think about the AFA and the BWFA.

Now I have lowered myself to doing the same thing you do, back to you. I apologize for my rudeness in advanced.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 17 Aug 2009 21:47 #352

smitty88 wrote:
JLB,
how do you find the set up at the school

Smitty,

I find the enviroment at the school is one you can learn at. I came into the school with one purpose and that was to learn the basics of shoeing, and I believe I did just that.

I will say if you don't show a desire to learn more and more.... well the school won't give you anymore then what you ask for.

The horses that are used aren't too difficult and the head instructor (Link Casey) is a great instructor, with ALOT of patience.

I hope I answered your question.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 18 Aug 2009 01:47 #353

Rick Burten;169778 wrote:
Response to what???

Does this mean that Mr. Casey will now be represented here on the FHRC forums by you?

No I will not be representing Ralph Casey.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 18 Aug 2009 01:50 #354

Mark_Gough;169791 wrote:
Hello JLB... welcome aboard.


Thank you Mark.

I look forward to using this forum as an additional resource.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 18 Aug 2009 03:19 #355

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Dear Mr. Burton, I have had the priviledge of working with many talented farrierse in my time. To name a few, Donald Jones, Elmer Cambell, Herman Combs, the three are members of the farriers hall of fame. Also Dr. Redden ,I have worked with, Bernie Chapmann, Sid Bundy, would you like me to go on? Do I learn? Every day. I was under thirtytwo horses today. How many were you under? My mentor? Terry Parke, ask Mr. Combs about him. Unfortunately Mr. Cambell is no longer with us, but i assure you his boys, who are top farriers can tell you of him. Mr. burton you have now convinced me to meet Mr. Casey, and consider joining his organization. He has more sense than you could dream about let alone learn from a book.

P.S. In the old days i just would have kicked your ass, still may. My son Alex W. Hinson, Jr. I am sure will not be as kind as I am.


Sincerley.....A.W.Hinson, Sr.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 18 Aug 2009 12:59 #356

awhinson wrote:
P.S. In the old days i just would have kicked your ass, still may. My son Alex W. Hinson, Jr. I am sure will not be as kind as I am.
A. W. Hinson, Sr.,

Is this really the kind of maturity you wish to show the whole world that you have developed as a professional farrier and is this what you are teaching your son?
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 18 Aug 2009 13:06 #357

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awhinson wrote:
P.S. In the old days i just would have kicked your ass, still may. My son Alex W. Hinson, Jr. I am sure will not be as kind as I am.


Sincerley.....A.W.Hinson, Sr.


You want to come on here and threaten to whip somebody's ass? And drag your son into it at the same time. Your son must not have been taught much respect if he wants to come in here looking for a fight. But they say the nut dont fall far from the tree. WHat are yall the traveling asswhipping farrier duo? Sounds like the newest act going with the circus if you ask me. That BWFA needs a few more like you in it. You will fit right in! You said you got under 32 horses. Does it take that many for you to make a living. If your having to get under that many you may want to look at your prices. Sounds to me like your the cheap-ass that cuts the legs out from under everybody else. Now sit down and shut up.. You MIGHT learn something.
Good judgement comes from experience... And a lot of that comes from bad judgement

Annoy a barefooter... SHOE horses!
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 18 Aug 2009 13:11 #358

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By the way A.W., where are you and your son from?
Good judgement comes from experience... And a lot of that comes from bad judgement

Annoy a barefooter... SHOE horses!
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 18 Aug 2009 13:31 #359

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awhinson wrote:
I was under thirtytwo horses today. How many were you under?
I have found that those who have brag about how many horse they get under in a day. Are the Wack-em-Tack-em don't worry about about shoe fit who also under cut the pricing of others.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 18 Aug 2009 13:55 #360

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We are from Florida. I just think it's funny how everybody is supposed to put up with snarky comments. Most of the replies that peple give are screaming "I'm being an ass and it's the internet so you can't do a damn thing". It has nothing to do with maturity. That's incredibly ****** to blame it on that. Some people won't tolerate an *****. There's no threat involved. It will happen. There's a few of you that desperately need the ass whippin. This keyboard doesn't hide you from reality.

Keep bull****ting people with your holier than thou approach. Mr. Casey did some stuff I didn't agree with but I always addressed him with respect. Little can be said about the maturity of THIS forum.

You clowns are too busy flinging **** at eachother to be credible on any approach. This is such a terrible forum. You nancy bastards act high and mighty in here. Go see Ralph and see what he's got goin. I know a few if any will do it. Haha ****in napkin farriers. I bet after your little internet type-a-thons you go to the cafe and talk horse stuff with the napkin trainers. Don't crinkle up them napkins too much.
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