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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 12:45 #331

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Hi all... I am currently finishing my training at Ralph Casey's school, below is his response........
Response to what???

Does this mean that Mr. Casey will now be represented here on the FHRC forums by you?
Hello Gang, I'm back from my long wonderful trip. I've been reading a lot of the hoopla, being an old country boy and not too educated my vocabulary is not as large as ya'alls,
Well, if you think education is expensive, consider the/your [demonstrable] cost of ignorance.....
however we are in the midst of a humongous research program... we are seeing who can drink the most and use the biggest words.
Finally, a worthy project for your vaunted research center. Shouldn't take much time though, last drunk standing who can use words of more than two syllables in a coherent sentence wins. Get back to us with your new champion's name.
Since I am the country boy in the crowd, I'm not heading up this big research program on who can drink the most.... I'm running a close ninth or tenth... and that's stretching it!
Be sure to say 'Hey' to all those Bubbas who are ahead of you.
However, since it was cancelled that sweet pea didn't come to Shur Shod,
Aw, you sound so disappointed. Have another drink. You'll get over it.
I'd like to extend my invitation to everyone to come to the research center to have a grand ole time, and then you can leave my school and cut me to pieces about balance.....
We can do that already. And we don't even have to leave the comfortable confines of our homes to do so.
you know I never understood that word, because no one has defined it.
Really? Perhaps when your comprehension skills exceed that of a third grader, you'll think differently. In the mean while, its heartening to know that this is the sort of stuff you are teaching those gullible enough to pay you for a farriery education.
But you can bet your sweet rear end you will leave with at least a smile on your face.
So does this mean that you are a member of NAMBLA? Or is it that you give 'em a "reach around" while you've got them bent over and grabbing their ankles?
It's sorta like that big ole long word... hallaleau, heck I might have misspelled it since I'm not as educated and as smart as ya'all.
Allow me to further your education. "Hallellujah". Practice spelling it and writing it. There will be a quiz later on. Maybe you should add spelling it correctly as a question on your vaunted Master(bater)Farrier exam
The point being, you'll have an opportunity to put some big words on how **** Ralph is,
No need for that. You've already done the job.
So let me tell you how it's going here, we are into big research now, we are into deer hunting. One guy shot a deer at 300 hundred yards with a .22, another guy was riding his horse threw a rope on it, jumped off his horse and cut his throat.
Do the folks at Field and Stream know about this?
You know it amazes me, with all the research ya all have done, where is your research center, I would like to visit it.
Why would we invite you?
And believe it or not you won't have to pay me to come.....
What makes you think anyone with more than the intelligence of a paramecium, would?
But here's the thing... gang, when you go into court you got to have proof and not hearsay,it's not words anymore. It all about the proof...
That a threat, Bubba?
is that why you are all so scared to come down here, are you really afraid you might not be as smart as you think you are, it's just a simple question.
Asked by a 'simple' man.....
Of course, we might have to pay you........
Of course you would. After all, you don't work for free do you?
On my way back from the beautiful journey out west, I happen to stop in to the Jesse and Frank James farm,
Considering their chosen line of work, I'll bet you felt right at home there.
He had some words in there that almost stretched to the end of the school... the prosecutor that is. Believe me it was 90% of the book, but here's the thing gang, at the end of this summation he was found NOT guilty.
The prosecutor was found not guilty:confused:. I thought it was Frank James that was on trial?
.. .so let me ask ya'all a question that we just put on the master farrier test... If a horse out in the wild lived 25 years and no one has trimmed him and shod him, will he ever speed cut? If so, why? If not, why?
This is the kind of question you put on your mf test?:eek: No wonder your group enjoys the sterling reputation it does.
What is passing gate?
I know that comprehension is not your long suit, and apparently that extends to mathematics, but in the spirit of collegiality I find I must point out that that's two questions, not "a question", which is what you originally stated you were going to ask.
I'll listen to your philosophy because I could be wrong, but you can beat your sweet rear I have film and documented evidence to back up my bull.....
"I could be wrong". ROTFLMFAO!! There's no could about it. And since even you recognize that it is, in your own words, "bull....", ..................LOL!
put that in your pipe rear back and smoke one on me!
Ummm, perhaps it would be better if you stopped mixing alcohol and pharmaceuticals.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 13:05 #332

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So I guess all that education and big words couldn't make Frank guilty.... .so let me ask ya'all a question that we just put on the master farrier test... If a horse out in the wild lived 25 years and no one has trimmed him and shod him, will he ever speed cut? If so, why? If not, why?

What is passing gate?

Since I threw them an easy questions out there, do you think we ought to balance those buggers...... well guys and gals it's a lovely evening, if you would like to set down here at this old table and get into a hoopla conversation with some good liquor, I'll listen to your philosophy because I could be wrong, but you can beat your sweet rear I have film and documented evidence to back up my bull..... put that in your pipe rear back and smoke one on me!

No, speed cut is from shoes. Now if your thinking it occurs barefoot, the answer is no, because their feet are constantly maintained (balanced) and no interference from a rider. I assume you have rode a horse being a country boy and all. :)

Ralph, you would not have to put in the effort of backing up your bull or spending a day in court if you understood the concept of earning trust. ;)

"People do not care what you know until they know you care". John Blombach.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 13:24 #333

Should be easy to understand the concept of balance, but some have to make it appear to be difficult. Baffle with BS and Dazzle with brilliance. Trim a hundred horses it will come.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 13:56 #334

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A Hundred:(
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 14:28 #335

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However, since it was cancelled that sweet pea didn't come to Shur Shod,
The reason being that They wanted me there only at the beginning of a class, instead of toward the end. Given that most beginner students start out about the same, seeing a bunch of greenies in the first week was not the way to show off what kind of farriers they are sending out into the world.
I'd like to extend my invitation to everyone to come to the research center to have a grand ole time, and then you can leave my school and cut me to pieces about balance..... you know I never understood that word, because no one has defined it.
Where have you been?
There are several well defined, very specific definitions of "balance" in the industry, so when you decide what end parameter of balance you think is the right one, you have specific guidelines to use. If you can't decide what 'balance' should be for your clients based on your understanding functional anatomy, loading forces and so on (science:rolleyes:) then maybe you should question your level of scientific understanding the equine leg and foot. Shoeing is not an art in my book.... it's mechanical skills combined with LOTS of science.
. But you can bet your sweet rear end you will leave with at least a smile on your face.
Or shaking my head.
It's sorta like that big ole long word... hallaleau, heck I might have misspelled it since I'm not as educated and as smart as ya'all.
You said it, not us. :D
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 14:42 #336

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Box Forge wrote:
I was only trying stress that science(anatomy,physiology,biomechanics,etc.) play a very big role in our profession and we should all strive to have a better understanding of how all of this plays into how we tend to the horses' hoofcare.
Thanks for the comments Mark.

Could not agree more Phillip.

P.S. I believe that it is God's design

Agreed, hence the option 'adaptation' over 'evolution'. But that's an entirely new "can of worms", isn't it? ;)

Cheers,
Mark
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 15:11 #337

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jlbshoeing wrote:
Hi all... I am currently finishing my training at Ralph Casey's school, below is his response........

Hello JLB... welcome aboard.
You know it amazes me, with all the research ya all have done, where is your research center, I would like to visit it. And believe it or not you won't have to pay me to come..... hold your mules I'm heading to the Bolton Center and then I will come and visit your research center. But here's the thing... gang, when you go into court you got to have proof and not hearsay,it's not words anymore. It all about the proof... is that why you are all so scared to come down here, are you really afraid you might not be as smart as you think you are, it's just a simple question. Of course, we might have to pay you........

Now be honest. Do people really let you come onto their property and shoe their horses? The only time I've ever heard anyone put those kind of thoughts into a single paragraph, they were usually homeless and suffering from a combination of drug addiction, alcoholism and mental illness.
What is passing gate?

I have no idea. Is it anything like the lateral 'passing gait' of a standardbred pacer?
I'll listen to your philosophy because I could be wrong, but you can beat your sweet rear I have film and documented evidence to back up my bull..... put that in your pipe rear back and smoke one on me!

Forget the numerous suggestions and self admitted need for additional education.

Therapy would be a more productive investment.

Cheers,
Mark
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 16:56 #338

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Does this man get any credit for anything
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 17:42 #339

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smitty88 wrote:
Does this man get any credit for anything
Sure. He is high on the list of folks who have proven P.T. Barnum's observation of human foibles, accurate. (actually it was David Hannum who first made the observation but thats grist for a different mill). :)
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 17:52 #340

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A Hundred:(

Smitty, at a minimum.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 17:54 #341

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it might me a nice spot for a few days

see how one of the top schools over there does it
Smitty88
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 18:01 #342

smitty88 wrote:
it might me a nice spot for a few days

see how one of the top schools over there does it

I did not know Mr. Casey's school was considered one of the top schools in this country. I wonder how it compares to Chris Gregory's, Mitch Taylor's, Mike Weldenstien's, Danny Ward's and many more?
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 19:18 #343

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I did not know Mr. Casey's school was considered one of the top schools in this country. I wonder how it compares to Chris Gregory's, Mitch Taylor's, Mike Weldenstien's, Danny Ward's and many more?
Huh . . . by who ????? :confused:
Now . . .
Kwantlen University Collage
36 weeks of Top School in North America
Gerard Laverty Instructor CJF AFA-Therapeutic Endorsement

How many schools go that long ?????

Not many if any.
Even Olds Collage in Alberta is only 9 months. :D
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 20:54 #344

Bradley-1stChoice wrote:
Huh . . . by who ????? :confused:
Now . . .
Kwantlen University Collage
36 weeks of Top School in North America
Gerard Laverty Instructor CJF AFA-Therapeutic Endorsement

How many schools go that long ?????

Not many if any.
Even Olds Collage in Alberta is only 9 months. :D

I don't know by who. Maybe it was Smitty's humor? :D

Kwantlen University Collage is impressive.
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RE:From Ralph Casey, President of the BWFA 15 Aug 2009 21:47 #345

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Bradley-1stChoice wrote:
36 weeks of Top School in North America
Gerard Laverty Instructor CJF AFA-Therapeutic Endorsement

How many schools go that long ?????

Not many if any.
Even Olds Collage in Alberta is only 9 months. :D

Bradley,

I know I'm somewhat older than you and that the teaching of mathematics when I was in school may have changed later on. However, my math shows that 36 weeks = 9 months and vice versa. Have I missed something or is it like the difference in the currency exchange rate between our two countries. :confused: :o :D
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