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TOPIC: Classical shoeing

Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 14:12 #1

Having a conversation with one of the other farriers in the area. He was talking about the different shoeing styles out there. I said I know. And what he said struck me as very interesting, because it what I have always believe in and that is .....his words....."There is a classical way of shoeing a Dressage horse, and horses in general"......and that people have lost that in their shoeing these days.

I said I agreed and the same as in shoeing the race horse.

we have lost some of the old art of classical shoeing.

The other shoer said to read up on the German shoeing for the 1860's on the It does hold water theory.
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 14:51 #2

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Having a conversation with one of the other farriers in the area. He was talking about the different shoeing styles out there. I said I know. And what he said struck me as very interesting, because it what I have always believe in and that is .....his words....."There is a classical way of shoeing a Dressage horse, and horses in general"......and that people have lost that in their shoeing these days.

I said I agreed and the same as in shoeing the race horse.

we have lost some of the old art of classical shoeing.

The other shoer said to read up on the German shoeing for the 1860's on the It does hold water theory.

Linda from nottingham,there is no such thing as shoeing styles~ To be a good farrier,one has to do as good of a job on somebodys backyard horse
as a million dollar showhorse~ If there is a classical way to shoe a dressage horse,what does one have to do to make it classical?
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 15:01 #3

Just passin through~ wrote:
Linda from nottingham,there is no such thing as shoeing styles~ To be a good farrier,one has to do as good of a job on somebodys backyard horse
as a million dollar showhorse~ If there is a classical way to shoe a dressage horse,what does one have to do to make it classical?

Classical style is the Calvery Manual way and German shoeing. Apparently, the Germans in the 1800's where excellent shoers and had a classical style of shoeing. When they meant shoe fit and no sole pressure; they would to the water test on the bottoms of a horses foot. If the water held, then you had a tight fit. If the water leaked, then you didn't have a shoe fit level to the foot. Hance; the saying ...."it doesn't hold water comes from".

On shoe styles and trims; you will have to ask others on this thread.
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 17:52 #4

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Just a note...

cavalry is horse soldiers. Calvary is the hill Jesus was crusified on.


and a tip...

you can find and download the Manual for Army Horseshoers 1917 online at internet archive.

Here's a link in case anyone wants to look at it.

http://www.archive.org/details/manualforarmyhor00moun
David H. Van Hook
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 19:21 #5

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We have a classical shoeing here in germany .."classic medical "came from about 100 vets looking and horses in ww1 as far as i know ..
They had alot of horses to look at and found that horses with a wide web shoe that was put on in line with the wall to the widest part of the hoof and back to the heels as wide as the coranary band and ending at the bulbs of the heels was helping horses in the extrem situation of war to stay sound...

This Is writen in my own word ....

Ray knightley.Farrier :Germany.
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 20:26 #6

everyhorseisapersontoo wrote:
We have a classical shoeing here in germany .."classic medical "came from about 100 vets looking and horses in ww1 as far as i know ..
They had alot of horses to look at and found that horses with a wide web shoe that was put on in line with the wall to the widest part of the hoof and back to the heels as wide as the coranary band and ending at the bulbs of the heels was helping horses in the extrem situation of war to stay sound...

This Is writen in my own word ....

Ray knightley.Farrier :Germany.

that's how I shoe. The TB's off the track; that's the first thing I do is put on the wide web aluminums on; and they go so much sounder. do it for most of my horses.
Thanks dear.....off to Memorial weekend and shoeing;)
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 20:33 #7

In stead of calling it fancy names, we might do better thinking about the mechanics of shoeing and deduct why horses stay sound or at least do better when shod in a particular way. The mechanics work for us not the name.


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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 21:03 #8

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Ronald Aalders wrote:
In stead of calling it fancy names, we might do better thinking about the mechanics of shoeing and deduct why horses stay sound or at least do better when shod in a particular way. The mechanics work for us not the name.


Ronald Aalders

Thats true .
But classical shoeing is a type of shoeing and needs a name as others do as well ,or not???

Ray.
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 21:24 #9

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I do a Mozart trim:D
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 21:50 #10

Smitty,
a mozart trim is better than "Chopin" it all off!:rolleyes:
Jason
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 21:51 #11

don't forget to "Bach" up the toe!:o:eek:
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 22:44 #12

when you BACH the toe MAN the foot will TURN'ER OVER when you put him in DRIVE. :D

Its a Canadian thing EH!
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 22:46 #13

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Jason Maki wrote:
don't forget to "Bach" up the toe!:o:eek:
Jason
I can "Handel" that. Hot steel "Beethoven" the horn.;)
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Here's the deal. I'm trying to keep it simple.
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RE:Classical shoeing 21 May 2009 23:05 #14

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Just passin through~ wrote:
as a million dollar showhorse~ If there is a classical way to shoe a dressage horse,what does one have to do to make it classical?
Play Brahms, Beethoven, Bach, while shoeing. Or, if shoeing horses of Spanish lineage, play Flaminco music on an acoustical axe.
Rick Burten PF

In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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RE:Classical shoeing 22 May 2009 00:39 #15

everyhorseisapersontoo wrote:
We have a classical shoeing here in germany .."classic medical "came from about 100 vets looking and horses in ww1 as far as i know ..
They had alot of horses to look at and found that horses with a wide web shoe that was put on in line with the wall to the widest part of the hoof and back to the heels as wide as the coranary band and ending at the bulbs of the heels was helping horses in the extrem situation of war to stay sound...

This Is writen in my own word ....

Ray knightley.Farrier :Germany.

Ray,i think your interpation of classic,is a classic~ You Germans are great enventors,and what about Solengen steel?
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