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RE:Thomas Jefferson 09 Apr 2009 01:28 #16

Thanks for the post Rick. I like to be reminded of the quotes of the founding fathers. The last Jefferson quote you recited is one of the best imho. The Federal Reserve caused the current financial crises, and these patriots knew this would happen.

I like this quote, by President Woodrow Wilson.

' A great industrial Nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the Nation and all of our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the world - no longer a Government of free opinion no longer a Government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a Government the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men'. ( Just before he died, Wilson is reported to have stated to friends that he had been 'deceived' and that 'I have betrayed my Country '. He referred to the Federal Reserve Act passed during his Presidency.)

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RE:Thomas Jefferson 09 Apr 2009 05:03 #17

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Bradley-1stChoice wrote:
Phil your home town ain't the barometer, so to speak, of global warming.
You need to look at the N/S Poles to really see it.

The ice caps are disappearing, FAST.

When the north and south (not USA) poles heat up,
it changes the weather patterns world wide.
some areas get colder and some get warmer.
More and bigger storms etc. etc.

Just because you don't see it out your front living room window don't mean it ain't happening.

My reply is when did global warming start? Answer - when the last ice age ended. The earth is in a cycle. At one time where I live now in Denmark, it was under the sea, we now find whale and other sea creature bones here. What about in the Dakotas and Canada, at one time it was very warm and lush with vegetation. The world will change and we can't stop it. On the other hand there is no reason not to try to conserve and use alternate forms of energy. But in the long run, things will change.
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What part of "NO" don't you understand!!

Caution: Watch for hoof in mouth disease!!!
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RE:Thomas Jefferson 09 Apr 2009 11:00 #18

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There's too much bad science surrounding the topic of climate change because of all the bad politics and government. Pollution is bad but we can't live without polluting. I doubt that CO2 should be considered a pollutant but those who think it is should shut up (hold their breath) and plant some trees.

Regardless of what the truth is about climate change, raising the cost of energy to the point where we can't afford to heat our homes or buy food isn't an acceptable solution.

The more urgent threat accosiated with climate change isn't the climate. It's the nut-cases that want us to believe they're going to fix it by putting the screws to us.
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RE:Thomas Jefferson 09 Apr 2009 12:16 #19

This is all interesting, but how does it relate to hoof care or the politics of farrier associations?

Or has Baron stopped enforcing the rules?
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RE:Thomas Jefferson 09 Apr 2009 13:28 #20

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Ron's correct. I've been preoccupied. Interesting reading. Now let's get back to farriery/hoofcare.

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