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TOPIC: Track rules re: Outer rims Flat/Steeple?

Track rules re: Outer rims Flat/Steeple? 31 Mar 2009 18:30 #1

PLEASE HELP!
If anyone has a condition book and can look at the "shoe policy" in their own state on both Flat and Steeplechase racing, and give the track name and state for both Dirt and Turf racing; please put on this board.
I really need all 50 states and all tracks in the US shoeing rules if possible!

Example:
Q: Is outer rims ok on turf/dirt at all tracks?
A: Delaware Park in DE, outer rims are banned in turf racing.

Thanks:)

PS: I have someone argueing with me that toe-grabs, both RT/LT (maybe outer rims) have not been banned in racing.
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RE:Track rules re: Outer rims Flat/Steeple? 31 Mar 2009 19:18 #2

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If anyone has a condition book and can look at the "shoe policy" in their own state on both Flat and Steeplechase racing, and give the track name and state for both Dirt and Turf racing; please put on this board.
I really need all 50 states and all tracks in the US shoeing rules if possible!

PS: I have someone argueing with me that toe-grabs, both RT/LT (maybe outer rims) have not been banned in racing.


Grabs haven't been banned on hinds here in Texas. Fronts are a different story:
The section implements Texas Civil Statutes, Article 179e.
ยง313.426.Toe Grabs Prohibited.

(a) A Thoroughbred or Arabian horse is ineligible to start in a race when it has shoes (racing plates) that have toe grabs with a height greater than two millimeters (0.07874 inches), bends, jar calks, stickers, or any other traction device on the front hooves.
(b) A Quarter Horse, Paint Horse, or Appaloosa is ineligible to start in a race when it has shoes (racing plates) that have toe grabs with a height greater than four millimeters (0.15748 inches), bends, jar calks, stickers, or any other traction device on the front hooves.
This agency hereby certifies that the proposal has been reviewed by legal counsel and found to be within the agency's legal authority to adopt.
Filed with the Office of the Secretary of State on December 8, 2008.
TRD-200806386
Mark Fenner
General Counsel
Texas Racing Commission
Earliest possible date of adoption: January 18, 2009
Tom Stovall, CJF
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RE:Track rules re: Outer rims Flat/Steeple? 31 Mar 2009 22:01 #3

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ladyblacksmith wrote:
PLEASE HELP!
If anyone has a condition book and can look at the "shoe policy" in their own state on both Flat and Steeplechase racing, and give the track name and state for both Dirt and Turf racing; please put on this board.
I really need all 50 states and all tracks in the US shoeing rules if possible!

Example:
Q: Is outer rims ok on turf/dirt at all tracks?
A: Delaware Park in DE, outer rims are banned in turf racing.

Thanks:)

PS: I have someone argueing with me that toe-grabs, both RT/LT (maybe outer rims) have not been banned in racing.

ladyblacksmith FWIW,


GRASS

At Woodbine "no toe grabs, caulks, stickers, blocks, turndowns, inserts, trailers or heel extensions are allowed on front or hinds. Only flat, queens plate, queens plate xt or equilivent may be used."

POLYTRACK

"no toe grabs, caulks, stickers, blocks, turndowns, inserts, trailers or heel extensions are allowed on front or hinds. Only flat, queens plate, queens plate xt or equilivent may be used."


Regards,

John Staples
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RE:Track rules re: Outer rims Flat/Steeple? 31 Mar 2009 22:31 #4

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John Staples wrote:
GRASS

At Woodbine "no toe grabs, caulks, stickers, blocks, turndowns, inserts, trailers or heel extensions are allowed on front or hinds. Only flat, queens plate, queens plate xt or equilivent may be used."

POLYTRACK

"no toe grabs, caulks, stickers, blocks, turndowns, inserts, trailers or heel extensions are allowed on front or hinds. Only flat, queens plate, queens plate xt or equilivent may be used."


Regards,

John Staples

If I didn't know how good you are, I'd say you were getting awful good pay for simple plating like that. :D:D
Stay healthy young fella.
All the best, John
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RE:Track rules re: Outer rims Flat/Steeple? 31 Mar 2009 23:42 #5

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I think Fort Erie is the only track left in North America that allows toe grabs in front on the dirt only.i'am trying to get them to change to no grabs in front. it's a real pain when they go to woodbine and we have to change the shoes.there 's still some trainers that think if they allow grabs in front they should have them. wouldn't want anyone to have an edge on them .
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