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TOPIC: President Elect Obama

RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 01:19 #16

ray steele wrote:
Folks,

With respect to all I ask....

The man has just been elected by a majority of the American People! Can't we wait to see what he does before we decide what he will not do?

Like it or not ,he is our(as in the American people) President elect. Popular vote and what should be electorol college vote.

Can we continue this discussion, in a more informed way in about a year from now.

Regards

Ray Steele

Ya know Ray,funny you should say that~ I voted for Mcain,when i knew he had no chance.Then today on the 12 o clock news,cnn came on with a report
about john Mcain saying he has never never did anything he said he would do.The story is on CNN.com. Never before the election was this speech let out.Maybe Obama should have a try???????But what bothers me is His MIDDLE name is "Husain" Lets see if the name is just an omen?
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 01:25 #17

I agree with you Ray, we need to come together and stand behind our leader. As far as suggestions, all Ive gotten from the White House is an automated reply, but I promise Ill keep trying.
Its as good as I can do it, every time I get to do it

Matt McMicken
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 01:34 #18

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yikes-a-hootey,...nobody is drinking the koolade, these are not sheep, (ie, those that followed Bush 2004, orange alert, red alert etc.,), these are people, a MANDATE, that wish to have something better. Better than what we have now. AND yes there are people that are less fortunate that need help. Not all can make it on their own in this world. So we let them what? Wither away and die. Sometimes we need help. If you invoke the name of God than I assume you claim to be somewhat Christian. AND....a good Christian would do what? Yep, they would help their fellow man. NOw If the tax plan of Obama,s is how he has stated, anyone under $250,000 would not have their taxes go up, I modestly assume that would be alot of us. . Obama wants to end the war in Iraq, continue to go after Bin Laden in Afghanistan, (what a novel Idea), and bring troops home and use the billions saved to help with the programs, Health, Economy, infrastructure, and yes disperse some wealth around. Again probably not yours. Step back, take a breath, and wait and see what happens. What else do you propose? Obama is the President. By one of the biggest margins in history. I am not an expert in these matters by a long shot, but alot of people smarter than I voted for this change. They can't all be wrong. And we all can't be happy.
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 01:38 #19

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Actually ,I will stop "poking the bear". I know I would be just as vocal had Obama lost. Sorry to push buttons here. John McCain is a good man and hopefully would have been a good President.
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 01:39 #20

Hey, Im not an Obama hater. I give him a lot of credit. Just seems like if the things he wants to do were so easy to do, theyd have been done a long time ago.
Its as good as I can do it, every time I get to do it

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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 01:45 #21

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Just passin through~ wrote:
Ya know Ray,funny you should say that~ I voted for Mcain,when i knew he had no chance.Then today on the 12 o clock news,cnn came on with a report
about john Mcain saying he has never never did anything he said he would do.The story is on CNN.com. Never before the election was this speech let out.Maybe Obama should have a try???????But what bothers me is His MIDDLE name is "Husain" Lets see if the name is just an omen?

JPT,

interesting to me is that what bothers you is the name that his parents gave him,

My folks gave me a middle name of Francis, and since you brought up Obamas middle name, I for the life of me wonder why my folks could have saddled me with what they did. I did have an uncle Frank, and a grandfather Francis, but to name a child with a middle name like Francis, is unbelievable, i sincerely hope that no one reading this ever reads another post by me,nor ever does business with anyone with the middle name(Francis) that sounds different than what they are use to. For those of you who possess a middle name that someone may take offense to, for your well being, do not use your middle name no matter how much you may be proud of it or how much it may mean to your family. As a matter of fact , stop using your 1st or last names also in case someone has trouble of some sort with them, use a number or a letter,unless someone has a problem with that, if so, ask what they would like you to call yourself by. Assert you independence, after all, this is the USA, and you deserve to be able to use the name that is most popular with the folks who prescribe with the most popular. Independent choice!

JPT, I wholehartedly agree,about whatever we were talking about.

Regards

Ray Steele
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 02:11 #22

ray steele wrote:
JPT,

interesting to me is that what bothers you is the name that his parents gave him,

My folks gave me a middle name of Francis, and since you brought up Obamas middle name, I for the life of me wonder why my folks could have saddled me with what they did. I did have an uncle Frank, and a grandfather Francis, but to name a child with a middle name like Francis, is unbelievable, i sincerely hope that no one reading this ever reads another post by me,nor ever does business with anyone with the middle name(Francis) that sounds different than what they are use to. For those of you who possess a middle name that someone may take offense to, for your well being, do not use your middle name no matter how much you may be proud of it or how much it may mean to your family. As a matter of fact , stop using your 1st or last names also in case someone has trouble of some sort with them, use a number or a letter,unless someone has a problem with that, if so, ask what they would like you to call yourself by. Assert you independence, after all, this is the USA, and you deserve to be able to use the name that is most popular with the folks who prescribe with the most popular. Independent choice!

JPT, I wholehartedly agree,about whatever we were talking about.

Regards

Ray Steele

Lol,i went to school with a kid that was a great quarterback"Francis Pak" We called him Franny , he didn't like it but the name stuck.Would it bother you
if i refured to you a Franny? Ya know Ray,anyname could go with STEELE?
You should be proud...................And being in the business helps?
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 02:56 #23

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Just passin through~ wrote:
Ya know Ray,funny you should say that~ I voted for Mcain,when i knew he had no chance.Then today on the 12 o clock news,cnn came on with a report
about john Mcain saying he has never never did anything he said he would do.The story is on CNN.com. Never before the election was this speech let out.Maybe Obama should have a try???????But what bothers me is His MIDDLE name is "Husain" Lets see if the name is just an omen?

You are a good guy! I never would've guessed it!
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 03:01 #24

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cwlindauer wrote:
Folks, If our election is that significant that God is paying attention to it instead of all that is going on in this world, I think he would approve.
Since I believe that this great land that we call the USA was given to us the people by God so that we can have our individual free agency. I think God very much cares about what we do and I don't think that he is please at all with the choice the people have made. The things that OB and the Dem party stand for take away the freedoms that we so much enjoy and introduces wickedness in to our society. It my belief that in time like other socities before us that we are ripe for destruction like other socities before us.
We are on the way of losing principles and freedoms guarenteed us in constitution. There are people in our society working hard to do away with the constitution. They don't want to amend or change it just do away with it because it restricts what the government can do.
Its time to for us to wake up watch out and pray that the thing OB wants to do does not happen.
Pray for our country we are going to need it everyday for the next four years.
Gary Miller, PF

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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 03:07 #25

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cwlindauer wrote:
Did I mention we all had to go through 8 years of a Bush administration, 4 years of which were a republican house and senate. Time for something new...better....heres hoping!

At the risk of sounding like a George Bush fan (because I'm not), do you recall that disaster that happened on 9/11/2001? :rolleyes: Less than a year after Bush took office and it hasnt happened since. So give credit where it's due. Your A SS has been safe thanks to the policies put in place by that administration and carried out by our military. No one ever thinks in those terms. Perhaps we all should.

Derin
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 03:10 #26

Derin Foor wrote:
At the risk of sounding like a George Bush fan (because I'm not), do you recall that disaster that happened on 9/11/2001? :rolleyes: Less than a year after Bush took office and it hasnt happened since. So give credit where it's due. Your A SS has been safe thanks to the policies put in place by that administration and carried out by our military. No one ever thinks in those terms. Perhaps we all should.

Derin


Amen to that!
Its as good as I can do it, every time I get to do it

Matt McMicken
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 03:15 #27

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Matt_McMicken wrote:
I agree with you Ray, we need to come together and stand behind our leader.
The President is our leader.

Last I looked we had a government for the people by the people. That makes us the people the leader.

The President is only the one we elected to look out for our freedoms and uphold the constitution and the laws of our land. Let hope he will take the other he is to be given and do just that.

As far as comming togeather and supporting the president. I'm sure there will be things done in which I will support. However, I'm sure there will be much that I will not agree with therefore I will not support. He who supports blindly without thought of the consequence is part of the problem. I think lots of people who voted for OB did without thought of the consequences. I think there was lots of votes cast that the voter had no idea of the issues. Those people are part of the problem.

Never the less what happed has happened. We can only hope that the congress will do thier job and listen to the people on the issues that come up. But even that is wishful thinking at times.

God Bless America. We are going to need it.
Gary Miller, PF

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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 03:29 #28

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If you have never seen the movie "The Kingdom" then you should. The first 5 minutes of the movie explain how the Middle East policies have affected the world for a long time. Going even further back in reality, Japan attacked the USA back in 1941 because of energy. The Dem's have always been in office when wars have started except Lincoln and W, but in defence of W, Slick Willy s crewed the pooch on the Osama deal. Ronald Reagan only needed to sign on as president for the Iranians to let the hostages go, because they had Carter on the ropes. Will OB stand with Isreal or side with the wackos? I am sure we will find out only too soon I am afraid!
"As I see it, winners get the money - while losers talk of "individual goals" and similar stuff." Tom Stovall
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 05:37 #29

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Just passin through~ wrote:
...But what bothers me is His MIDDLE name is "Husain" Lets see if the name is just an omen?

Speaking of names, did you notice this prominent post at the beginning of the Political Arena forum?
Due to the nature and importance of the issues being discussed in the Political Arena Forum, all future posts (commencing on December 26, 2006) in all of the threads of the Political Arena Forum must, without exception, have the full real name of the poster at the end of the post. Ya'll are welcome to continue using whatever fanciful "screen names" you want as your User Name, but in the Political Arena Forum threads, all posts henceforth must have the full real name of the poster at the end of the post.

Any posts without full real names at the end will be removed immediately. I assume I've made this policy perfectly clear.

Baron

Just trying to be helpful.

Mark Gough
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RE:President Elect Obama 06 Nov 2008 06:26 #30

Mark_Gough wrote:
Speaking of names, did you notice this prominent post at the beginning of the Political Arena forum?



Just trying to be helpful.

Mark Gough

Mark,you are a tattletail? And i think you have always been a tattletail.
I don't come in ever,its just that this election is going to make history
and these couple posts won't hurt........Is there anything that you read
of mine that bothered you? To make a person tattle?
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