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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 01:29 #46

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brian robertson wrote:
What was that?

maybe the black helicopters coming for you....

or maybe it's space aliens with anal probes looking for rednecks...

or most likely the sound of sore losers

Sore losers? Maybe. As you can see, there are a whole lot of us that don't like Obamas vision for this country. I, for one, just don't want to live that way.
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 01:32 #47

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handmade pride wrote:
Just because your paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. As far as ole Barak I pray we are all wrong about him.

It isn't a matter of whether or not we're right or wrong about Obama. It comes out of his own mouth. The question is...Is Obama right about Obama?
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 02:03 #48

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It isn't a matter of whether or not we're right or wrong about Obama. It comes out of his own mouth. The question is...Is Obama right about Obama?



Mike, thats whats the shame. That it comes from his own mouth and people still willingly put him in office.
Matthew Kornegay.

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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 02:22 #49

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handmade pride wrote:
Mike, thats whats the shame. That it comes from his own mouth and people still willingly put him in office.

They want all that free stuff he promised them. Of course there are a huge number of voters who don't know anything about any of the issues and just vote for the one they think is better looking, a better speaker or the right color.
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 03:23 #50

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Mike Ferrara wrote:
They want all that free stuff he promised them. Of course there are a huge number of voters who don't know anything about any of the issues and just vote for the one they think is better looking, a better speaker or the right color.

And Mike,

What might the "right color" be?

please follow up with an answer to what might the "wrong color" be?

Regards

Ray Steele
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 10:19 #51

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I said "Of course there are a huge number of voters who don't know anything about any of the issues and just vote for the one they think is better looking, a better speaker or the right color."

ray steele wrote:
And Mike,

What might the "right color" be?

please follow up with an answer to what might the "wrong color" be?

Regards

Ray Steele

In regard to my statement above. The right color depends on who is doing the voting. Why do you think Obama got 90% of the black vote?

But I also refered to "the better looking" and the "better speaker". Why did you single out color? JFK got a lot of votes because he was better looking than Nixon.

My point was that lots of people choose a candidate on criteria other then the issues or political/governmental principles.
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 11:14 #52

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Mike,

I'm just asking, back in 1960 I don't remember you bringing this up!

Regards

Ray Steele
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 11:25 #53

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ray steele wrote:
Mike,

I'm just asking, back in 1960 I don't remember you bringing this up!

Regards

Ray Steele

1960 was before Al Gore invented the internet.

Are you just asking? You jumped right on the color thing. I think it's really odd that a mention of color will get people to jump right now but there are so many who remain happily ignorant of the issues, what our Constitution says or how and why this country came to be.
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 11:30 #54

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Mike,

if I remember correctly,you brought up the color issue, I just asked for clarification,,,

Regards

Ray Steele
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 11:35 #55

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Ray,

Back in 1959 - 1960 many people were aghast and amazed that a Roman Catholic was the Democratic Party's candidate for President. The 'shock and awe' when he got elected was much akin to what I've witnessed with the election of Obama. As I said earlier, the look of absolute rapture on the faces in the crowd during Obama's victory speech, was deja' vu 1959/60 for me. I will observe with great interest the reactions of those folks when they finally realize and come to terms with the fact that their 'god' has feet of clay.

Might of made for an interesting campaign and election were it JFK running against BHO this time around, all other factors being equal.....
Rick Burten PF

In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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Je pense donc je suis
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 13:18 #56

It takes a lot of courage for a man or woman to run for office. Even more so for a African American. This is a very historic and proud time for African Americans. Even though I am a strong republican I am impressed with Obama and willing to give this man a chance. He will be our new President and Commander and chief. Do the right thing and stand behind him, this is how our political system works. If you don't like it then move.

I was not happy when Clinton was elected and at the time I was serving in the Air National Guard. My supervisor said he is your new commander and chief. Get use to it and show some respect.

I find it very interesting that we cannot discuss theology on here however the moderator has no problem with some discussing a man's color and ethnic background.

JMHO. or as Bruce says, my two cents worth. :)

Happy Veterans Day!!!!!!!!
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 13:27 #57

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At least for the next month and a half we do have the freedom of speech working for us. I sure remember all the Bush Bashers that could say what they wanted and you didn't defend him?
"As I see it, winners get the money - while losers talk of "individual goals" and similar stuff." Tom Stovall
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 13:36 #58

Gary Hill wrote:
At least for the next month and a half we do have the freedom of speech working for us. I sure remember all the Bush Bashers that could say what they wanted and you didn't defend him?

The way I look at it once a decision is made it is what it is. Move on with a positive attitude and don't look back. In another 4 years we can start the bashing back up and make a new decision or stick with the same for another term.

God willing my ass will be up and my head down makeing money and takeing care of my own problems no matter who is in charge. :)
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"Anyone who proposes to do good must not expect people to roll stones out of his way, but must accept his lot calmly if they even roll a few more upon it." Albert Schweitzer
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 13:39 #59

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Cash on barrel head, no checks!:D
"As I see it, winners get the money - while losers talk of "individual goals" and similar stuff." Tom Stovall
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RE:God help us all.......... 11 Nov 2008 14:15 #60

Phil,, I dont think courage is the word for someone running for public office, more a need to serve their fellow americans or to assume a position of power to promote their partys agendas. Mr. Obama's true motives are yet to be judged , but as you said we are stuck with him at least for the time being. I do not agree that the way our politicle system works in that we must blindly follow the leader that is chosen or move as you so indicated, but that our leaders are accountable to the people , from the lowest position to the the most exalted heights that are achieved. We are successfull because we support our great nation in spite of whoever is at the helm, we are successfull because no leader is so comfortable in their position of power that he or she cannot be removed if they do not hold our best interests at heart. No one person or party or entity will drag us usunder because we have the constititional right to question , disagree and ultimately remove any that prove unworthy of that trust. Now how will this president do,, I cannot say but if his race , religion or private opinions become a danger to our country then as any other president he can be inpeached and fired. My own opinions and missgivings aside , I hope we see a good leader emerge from this election, but I do give warning that we are watching and we as a people are very fond of our "free speech". JMHO Skip Messick
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