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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 22:21 #16

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Mike Ferrara wrote:
You heard about the law suit filed in PA?

No, I have not.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 22:44 #17

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Rick Burten wrote:
No, I have not.

I can't think of his name right now but the former PA deputy AG (a democrat) filed suit to force Obama to produce a birth certificate. Obama didn't.

I didn't hear the whole thing (bad reception) but apparently the court ruled that it wouldn't hear the case so it's being appealed.

Also aleged in the suit (from what I heard, I haven't read it) is that there is a tape of Obama's granmother in Kenya saying that she was present when he was born in Kenya.

Not only is there concern about whether or not he was born in the US but apparently there is some doubt that he qualifies even if he was because of requirements regarding residency of the parents.

Aparently, there is no formal procedure for checking these things with candidates. If you say that you qualify and nobody questions it, you're golden.

There's more but I'm speaking from memory and you should be able to dig it up someplace to read for yourself.

Whatever is going on, I think it's important to note that the suit was filed by a democrat and, most of all, that all Obama would have to do to put the whole thing to rest is produce proof that he was born in the US. I'd just run over to the courthouse and get a copy of my birth certificate rather than hiring lawyers to fight a court battle. He also hasn't relesed his university records.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 22:48 #18

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Rick,

Here you go http://www.obamacrimes.com/

This is the site of the guy who filed the suit.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 22:59 #19

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Thanks Mike.

However, before anyone gets their hopes up or hangs their hat on a very slender hook, it will be worthwhile reading this:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

and, this:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 23:30 #20

Having just listening to a heavily edited somewhat twisted bit of audio and a sound bite that is being used to feed into the paranoid ranting of the ultra right I am often amazed at how convoluted a path it is that is being taken to justifying doing what is more or less a transparent bit of unfounded mudslinging.

I'd suggest that those of you contributing to this bit of low information mudslinging with your racist or religiously bigoted bits of tripe should be ashamed of yourselves. But I know that is a waste of time because if you were capable of being ashamed you wouldn’t have posted them in the first place.

Hate speech is hate speech regardless of weather if comes from the grand dragon of the KKK, from some ***** mullah or the nice little old lady next door. It is offensive and it is caustic to our society. The last thing we need in our country is more hate.

Yes you have a right to express yourself. I also have the right to tell you how small, bigoted and/or ignorant it makes you look when you do.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 23:43 #21

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Ronald E. Kramedjian wrote:
Having just listening to a heavily edited somewhat twisted bit of audio and a sound bite that is being used to feed into the paranoid ranting of the ultra right I am often amazed at how convoluted a path it is that is being taken to justifying doing what is more or less a transparent bit of unfounded mudslinging.

I'd suggest that those of you contributing to this bit of low information mudslinging with your racist or religiously bigoted bits of tripe should be ashamed of yourselves. But I know that is a waste of time because if you were capable of being ashamed you wouldn’t have posted them in the first place.

Hate speech is hate speech regardless of weather if comes from the grand dragon of the KKK, from some ***** mullah or the nice little old lady next door. It is offensive and it is caustic to our society. The last thing we need in our country is more hate.

Yes you have a right to express yourself. I also have the right to tell you how small, bigoted and/or ignorant it makes you look when you do.

Where did anybody here say anything about race? How did you get racism out of this?
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 23:47 #22

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Rick Burten wrote:
Thanks Mike.

However, before anyone gets their hopes up or hangs their hat on a very slender hook, it will be worthwhile reading this:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

and, this:

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

Yes, I read all that. I'm not convinced either way.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 23:57 #23

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Ronald E. Kramedjian wrote:
Having just listening to a heavily edited somewhat twisted bit of audio and a sound bite that is being used to feed into the paranoid ranting of the ultra right I am often amazed at how convoluted a path it is that is being taken to justifying doing what is more or less a transparent bit of unfounded mudslinging.

I'd suggest that those of you contributing to this bit of low information mudslinging with your racist or religiously bigoted bits of tripe should be ashamed of yourselves. But I know that is a waste of time because if you were capable of being ashamed you wouldn’t have posted them in the first place.

Hate speech is hate speech regardless of weather if comes from the grand dragon of the KKK, from some ***** mullah or the nice little old lady next door. It is offensive and it is caustic to our society. The last thing we need in our country is more hate.

Yes you have a right to express yourself. I also have the right to tell you how small, bigoted and/or ignorant it makes you look when you do.


There was an audio of 'Barrack endorsing speading the wealth(success) of others through the supreme court. One needs to go to France and see socialism at work. Illinios public radio, 2002.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 28 Oct 2008 00:09 #24

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Ronald E. Kramedjian wrote:
Having just listening to a heavily edited somewhat twisted bit of audio and a sound bite that is being used to feed into the paranoid ranting of the ultra right I am often amazed at how convoluted a path it is that is being taken to justifying doing what is more or less a transparent bit of unfounded mudslinging.

I'd suggest that those of you contributing to this bit of low information mudslinging with your racist or religiously bigoted bits of tripe should be ashamed of yourselves. But I know that is a waste of time because if you were capable of being ashamed you wouldn’t have posted them in the first place.

Hate speech is hate speech regardless of weather if comes from the grand dragon of the KKK, from some ***** mullah or the nice little old lady next door. It is offensive and it is caustic to our society. The last thing we need in our country is more hate.

Yes you have a right to express yourself. I also have the right to tell you how small, bigoted and/or ignorant it makes you look when you do.

How is anything that was said racist??? Was Obama saying this country is run by white mans greed racist? I love this race card that has been played so much lately. Bottom line is, Barak No House NObama is a Markist Socialist that'll run this country into the ground.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 28 Oct 2008 00:11 #25

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Isn't it amazing how anyone who criticizes Obama gets accused of being a racist?
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 28 Oct 2008 00:21 #26

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How is anything that was said racist??? Was Obama saying this country is run by white mans greed racist? I love this race card that has been played so much lately. Bottom line is, Barak No House NObama is a Markist Socialist that'll run this country into the ground.

It's this way...he is the savior, to be worshiped and his every word taken as gospel. Therefore, if we aren't voting for him it must be because of his color and couldn't possibly be because we disagree with him on every single issue.

ooops...or that he doesn't have any experience doing anything or the crazy company he keeps or...
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 28 Oct 2008 03:39 #27

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That was a prime example of the twisted, edited junk I DONT listen to while making voting decisions.

THINK for yourselves.
IGNORE twisted hype.
STUDY the facts of the real issues for yourselves, and ONLY listen to the actual words these candidates say IN CONTEXT, not someone else's interpretations. Get your information from REAL unbiased news sources.

Anyway, I always wanted Colin Powell but he won't run.
Then I wanted HIllary Clinton but she got screwed out of the Democratic candidacy.
I'm voting Obama.
And when Colin Powell endorsed him , that clinched it for me even more.

Go to France for a whle and see how nice it is to have a government that actually works FOR every working stiff, instead of legislating under the table deals to benefit mainly big OIL business.
And in France, they actually get real health care they can afford.

And go buy a Smart Car. :p
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 28 Oct 2008 06:08 #28

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calshoer wrote:
Go to France for a whle and see how nice it is to have a government that actually works FOR every working stiff, instead of legislating under the table deals to benefit mainly big OIL business.
And in France, they actually get real health care they can afford.


Working stiffs: france has over 20% unemployment we hace 6%.
Big oil always makes 7-8% NET profit per gallon (taxes are about 80 cents).
France had thousands of its citicens die, especialy the elderlt, a few years back during a heat wave because of inadicuat health care.

By the way, Osama's quotes from NPR were not taken out of context. He stated exactly what he thought and taught. Clasic marxisim, I know I used to be there, when I was a kid.

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 28 Oct 2008 06:11 #29

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Ronald E. Kramedjian wrote:
Having just listening to a heavily edited somewhat twisted bit of audio and a sound bite that is being used to feed into the paranoid ranting of the ultra right I am often amazed at how convoluted a path it is that is being taken to justifying doing what is more or less a transparent bit of unfounded mudslinging.

I'd suggest that those of you contributing to this bit of low information mudslinging with your racist or religiously bigoted bits of tripe should be ashamed of yourselves. But I know that is a waste of time because if you were capable of being ashamed you wouldn’t have posted them in the first place.

Hate speech is hate speech regardless of weather if comes from the grand dragon of the KKK, from some ***** mullah or the nice little old lady next door. It is offensive and it is caustic to our society. The last thing we need in our country is more hate.

Yes you have a right to express yourself. I also have the right to tell you how small, bigoted and/or ignorant it makes you look when you do.

Please site the offences, or I must admit I have fallen for a very well played joke.

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 28 Oct 2008 10:39 #30

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calshoer wrote:
That was a prime example of the twisted, edited junk I DONT listen to while making voting decisions.

THINK for yourselves.
IGNORE twisted hype.
STUDY the facts of the real issues for yourselves, and ONLY listen to the actual words these candidates say IN CONTEXT, not someone else's interpretations. Get your information from REAL unbiased news sources.

What do you consider an unbiased news source?

Anyway, I always wanted Colin Powell but he won't run.
Then I wanted HIllary Clinton but she got screwed out of the Democratic candidacy.
I'm voting Obama.
And when Colin Powell endorsed him , that clinched it for me even more.

I don't see much difference between Clinton and Obama on policy...way too socialist.

Go to France for a whle and see how nice it is to have a government that actually works FOR every working stiff, instead of legislating under the table deals to benefit mainly big OIL business.
And in France, they actually get real health care they can afford.

Why does the government have to provide health care? If there's a problem with our helth care "sytem", it was cause by the government and the insurance companies. I remember when it was not only affordable but the doctor came to the house. Our constitution spells out fairly clearly what the governments responsibilities are.

I've been to Europe...no thanks.
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