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'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 15:51 #1

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Democrats and Republicans can argue all day about nationalized healthcare, the economy, the war or any other topic you wish.

Ultimately, none of these major issues will matter.

This election is centered on one mans belief that the constitution represents not a linchpin of limited government and the entreprenuerial spirit of a free people, but rather, an obstacle to the nationalized socialism that he views as necessary to achieve his goal.

Senator Obama firmly believes in a singular premise from which all other issues are shaped. That premise is the compensation of "previously dispossessed people".

The civil rights movement of the 60's, in his view, did not go far enough.

"...but the supreme court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth and more basic issues of economic justice for this society... B. Obama, 2001"

When he says "society", the senator is talking about the African American community.

Just so we are all clear on exactly what an Obama presidency would mean to this nation and to you as a farrier, an independent businessman and an American, I offer the following for your review....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOtdbqjDHJI&feature=related

As you go to the polls, remember this; what this man believes will be supported by a congressional majority that agrees with him.


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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 16:10 #2

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I'll betcha' none of his wealth gets redistributed.

Welcome to the brave new world of the United Socialist States of America.

Give B. Hussein Obama and his Congressional cohorts enough time and rope and we'll probably be facing East several times a day on our knees and listening to broadcasts of the Mullahs. But only after our wealth has been redistributed to those oh so deserving bums and leeches that infest us here and abroad.

You think Bush was/is bad for this country? You think Clinton disgraced his office? Hang on folks and remember two things

Be careful what you wish for 'cause you just might get it, and,
The Law of Unintended Consequences.

Just don't come back later on and whine that you were not warned.

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In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 16:30 #3

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Scary, isn't it? The only power a politician really has is to give away someone else's money.
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The best things about the good old days -- I wasn't good and I wasn't old.

The older I get, the more horses I shoe, the fewer things that I can absolutely, positively fix.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 17:32 #4

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and its going to be those that get him elected who are going to whine and cry and scream the loudest when their wealth gets redistributed.

How much of Ted Kennedy's et al, wealth do you really think is going to get redistributed?
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 20:14 #5

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Rick Burten wrote:
and its going to be those that get him elected who are going to whine and cry and scream the loudest when their wealth gets redistributed.

They still won't get it.

But maybe it won't go that far. Has Obama figured out how to get a copy of his birth certificate yet?
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 20:18 #6

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Rick Burten wrote:
and its going to be those that get him elected who are going to whine and cry and scream the loudest when their wealth gets redistributed.

Cause I don't know, cause I don't clear over 250k a year, how much are your Rick Burten's taxes going to go up if Obama gets elected?
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 21:13 #7

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T.N. Trosin wrote:
Cause I don't know, cause I don't clear over 250k a year, how much are your Rick Burten's taxes going to go up if Obama gets elected?

It's not the dollar value...that can always change.

What's important is the principle...the idea that it's ok for the government to confiscate private property for redistribution.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 21:14 #8

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I am still undecided.
I wish elections would make it required of folks to tell whole truths instead of all the half truths we hear.

I wish all adverticements had to be OK'd by a nuetral committee before allowed to air.

I wish there were strict limits on the amount of money allowed to be used by each candidate during elections.
The EXACT SAME AMOUNT for both candidates.

I wish the powers to be would make it illegal to add on any and all the pork barrel that rides on the backs of good and bad bills .

Mostly I wish the candidates were truly elected by the voters and not the electorial college.

my 2 cents worth ;)
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I thought my life had come to a close with Cindy's passing, but there is life after death Thankyou Sharon !

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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 21:16 #9

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Given what he has to say regarding our constitution, I don't understand how he can even take the oath.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 21:22 #10

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vthorseshoe wrote:
I am still undecided.

this is an easy one for me. I MUST go to the polls to vote against Obama. Unfortunately someone might get the idea that I want McCain and I don't.

I wish the powers to be would make it illegal to add on any and all the pork barrel that rides on the backs of good and bad bills .

It isn't just the pork. They can add all sorts of unrelated stuff to any bill they want. It's just a tool for legislators to trade favors..."I'll vote for your lousy bill if you put a little something in that I want".

Of course, unless we manage to read every single piece of legislation, we hav absolutely no idea what they're really up to.

When they write legislation, they should be required to stay "on topic".
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 21:37 #11

Another election of the "lessor of two evils".....

I can't think of an election I voted in that wasn't.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 22:00 #12

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Brian Purrington wrote:
Another election of the "lessor of two evils".....
Its more like "the evil of two lessors". Unfortunately for this country, there is one who is a worse lessor than the other. And it isn't JM.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 22:02 #13

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Mike Ferrara wrote:
Has Obama figured out how to get a copy of his birth certificate yet?
Didn't he have to have one to get a driver's license? a marriage certificate? A Social Security card?
Rick Burten PF

In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 22:09 #14

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Brian Purrington wrote:
Another election of the "lessor of two evils".....

I can't think of an election I voted in that wasn't.

Agreed. I think our founders knew that we would never find the perfect person for the job. The framework set forth in the Constitution usually does a pretty good job of keeping thing from getting too far out of wack. The result is the nation that we have. which while not perfect, aint too shaby either. I can't think of a better place. We just have to keep it that way.
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RE:'lest there be any doubt 27 Oct 2008 22:11 #15

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Rick Burten wrote:
Didn't he have to have one to get a driver's license? a marriage certificate? A Social Security card?

I don't know. You heard about the law suit filed in PA?
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