Bill Adams wrote:
Heaven forfend!Gary Hill wrote:
When you consider how few days Obama has spent in Washington actually performing the job he was elected to do its not a good start, its not even much of a start.

Perhaps, if elected, he will create a new Cabinet level position: "Department of Political Climatology", and nominate as its first Secretary, Bill Ayers. After all, Billy-boy was the leader of a reginal SDS group known as "The Jessie James Gang" and then went on to help organize and start the Weatherman group of terrorists.

Ooops, Billy-boy maintains that he and his fellow terrorists actually were not terrorists because, in his own words, ""The reason we weren't terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people."

Say what? Even a superficial look at the activities of the SDS and Weatherman groups would show something quite different.

And let us not forget his religious leader, who has instilled great values in Obama by often reciting "G-d D-a-m-n America" and other such tirades. Perhaps he should head the Department of Justice.

And lest we overlook it, it is wise to remember that Bill Ayers is married to Bernadine Dorhn a fellow radical/terrorists he met during his days in the Weather Underground, and the two of them shared legal guardianship for a child born to Kathy Boudin and David Gilbert. You may remember those two admirable people for their conviction and prison time for their part in the 1981 Brink's robbery during which two police officers and a Brink's guard were murdered. You might also find it interesting that also involved in that robbery and murder were members of the Black Liberation Army.

Not exactly a scintillating resume' of friends and their acquaintances for "a man who would be king".........

Rick,
something tells me this will all be common knowlage by the end of Oct.

Bill Adams wrote:
Was it?

I can't be responsible for what someone may 'suppose' or for what Islamic law requires of it's patrons. Perhaps a question better asked of Mr. Obama?

Nah, I'd never presume such lifelong exposure by a persons closest loves ones would have any growth impact on that persons position.

After all, we are, each of us, unique; just like everyone else.

Ah, I see you've uncovered my native American Indian heritage and given name. Let's keep it between the two of us lest any come to believe I'm somehow influenced by having been raised and mentored in such a way.

Please consider any such admission on my part as a mere 'slip of the tongue'.

Mark

Mark,
All kidding aside, can you imagin the main miedia reaction to Bush making the same gaffs that Osama makes. The one you sighted wasn't shown on TV as a "slip" or mentioned at all. It would have been wall to wall if W had said it.

Phil Armitage wrote:
Yikes Phil, fox news is one of the most bias and propaganda filled news networks. Not that most of the other networks are much better. You would be better off turning off that box, and getting your news from more reliable sources. The BBC is a decent source for semi-non bias world news. NPR is hit or miss, but has some good stuff.

-josh

Gary Hill wrote:
Jesse Ventura did a pretty good job i his political position without any experiece. Maybe someone without experiance in politics would be nice for a change. I dont like Oboma, and I dont like McCain. A socialist and a marxist running for president. nice.

SlowShoe wrote:Did he get reelected? I've heard from folks in Minn that he was terrible.

Jessie Ventura coasted through his term, things didn't get worse in Minnisota, but they didn't get better from what I understand. Proof positive that you want to leave governance to the professionals.

I wish you guys would have stuck to Mike Huckabee, actually I wish the U.S. voters would have opened their eyes a little more to Ron Paul, but I thought Huckabee was McCain's best choice, but "Mr. radical" let himself be pushed around by the GOP and we ended up with this chick from America Jr. I will grant all of you this she is pretty and she is determined, but what has done that was so great that she got put over Huckabee? Oh yeah, she looks better is a skirt and heels than he does. For the first time in my life I am considering voteing for a Democrat for president just so I can keep this woman out of Wahsington, but I do have to ask my self is it worth the additional taxes that we will no doubt pay? Perhaps I should google Bob Barr.

I would vote for you Tom, again.
Sa for Sara, I'm sure she's not prefect, and wer're sure to here more bad stuff comeing soon.
However the things I've heard so far ain't too bad. Cut the governore personal expence 80% of what the former Republican Gov. spent on himself.
Got the head of the state GOP a $12K fine for misconduct. Rewrote some oil contracts to unscrw the Alaskan public. Good start.
I have learned that she has had the same amount of time as Govenor when nominated for VP as Teedy Roseavelt did when he was nominated for VP. They both share an ability to hunt, shoot, skin, and eat large animals.
Osama seems like the kind of guy who has considered becoming a vegitairian more seriously than buying buck tags.

Vegitarian? Isn't that an old Lakota word for bad hunter?

Bill Adams wrote:
I guess that was a bad example> I shouldnt have used it since I dont know much about him anyway.

SlowShoe wrote:
It's a bad example in the form of a govoner but in the aspect a good example of an American who isn't affraid to speek his mind. I personally think that in a Chauncy Gardner kind of way he makes a lot of sense. The other day he was on TV saying 'In the words of Jerry Garcia, if your chosesing the lesser of two evils, your still choosing evil'. While you might disagree with the source you still need to appreciate the sentiment. Part of the problem with politics in America is the two party system, that America only has "two choices", fact is that there are several parties out there but those parties are so fringie nobody except their core can take them serriously. So we are stuck with Mc Bamma as the Libratarians say. I am still on the fence, as far as I am concerned the people who should be leading this country never will becsue everything you have done in your life becomes a talking point about how qualified you are. Living life the way a person does has nothing to do with the ability to govern it just make you look like a bad person. But where as all votes are popularity contests I guess it has become important.

Could Obama get a security clearance? Would his association with Bill Ayres deny him a security clearance? I think it would.

SlowShoe wrote:

Doesn't matter, politicians are the same the world over....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvs_wntrT40&NR=1

It will be a sad day for me if a man is elected President of this country that would not even acknowledge the Pledge of Allegiance.
Is any one on here a member of the NRA? I dont like what Obama wants to do with our gun rights either. You all should read an NRA publication, and give it some thought.
A quote from Ronald Reagan: If we ever forget that we are a nation under one God, then we will be a nation gone under.
Where I come from, we stand, take off out hat, and put our hand over out heart when they play the Pledge of Allegiance. We bow our heads for the prayer, and we say Amen. And we take offense to those that dont.