OK Folks,

Baron needs our input. Should non-farriers be allowed to post in the political forum?

As I said in the other thread I personally think that the most important input for us as farriers to listen to in regard the effectiveness of our organizations and attitudes will come from the horse owners themselves. We are all in service to horses and horse owners and the foundation of all of the farrier organizations out there is in part toward marketing to the horse owner isn’t it?

I agree completely. Our clients,( non-farriers ), should have some input. These are the people we make our living off of, and good perfessional relationships with the "non-farrier" community is something that we are all trying to achieve. Part of that is listening to them. I say definatly they should be allowed into the politcal forum.

What would they have to contribute on the Political side, though?

Baron

No. Too many people are ' emotional ' here... will not say names.

I think that the views of the non-farriers on our organizations is important because these organizations websites, and member lists, as well as forums, and blogs are where many of them go to find compitent, educated, and repurable farriers. The well being of these organizations, and their methods of training, and information sharing directly effects our clients through us.

Suggestion,

Start another "Political Forum" ,one that allows non farriers to post, get the best of both, you may find that you only need one,or you may find that one feeds the other.

regards

Ray Steele

Or I may throw 'em both out. Still, it's not a bad idea. Let it stew for a bit.

Baron

I believe their views can contribute greatly to helping better the organizations by giving us an outside view point. An arbitrarial view point if you will.

Cyber Farrier wrote:Baron,

Hmmm. Perspective on attitudes, opinions, positions, approaches, etc....

They also have a stake in things like the “Horse Protection Act”, the debate on Farrier Licensing, Legal issues relating to disease control and laws relating outbreak containment. They should have a place where they can provide their input on the courage or cowardice of the various associations in relationship to each of the things listed above. They are more affected directly by how good or bad the hoof care is that their horses receive, why shouldn’t they have someplace to discuss the political ramifications of the decisions, made by organizations without benefit of their input, that affect their livestock so dramatically in some cases?

IMO, all to often horse owners are ignored by the farrier industry as a inconvenient necessity. Frankly, they are treated with even more distain that Vet’s by many farriers and the organizations that represent farriers seem to fail to see how that impacts their farrier members and their livelihoods. So I think horse owners have a lot to say and will if they are given the opportunity to.

Perhaps this would be a good one for an anonymous poll?

Ron, maybe we Farriers are being alittle nonprofessional, if we don't try to have open communication with the owners of the horses we shoe and work on? I know it grinds on us all the hear the owners and sometimes trainers and vets describe and prescribe a shoeing option ,that we Farriers sometimes know will not work in certain situationsl. At least it does open the door to discussion if you allow it? Everyones side is heard, and positions are taken so that if one way doesn't work the next one might and will be recieved in a more professional manner? It takes quite awhile to weed out bad clients we all don't really want to work for, so if the owners can learn why not?

Seems to me there are literally dozens of webssites that they can say anything they want. Even here there is a general discussion for them.

Seems the politics of the respective organizations is none of their concern.

At this point I'll have to agree with La Quebecoise;)
George

George Geist wrote:

George, im always right did'nt you know ?!!!
C'est en ferrant qu'on devient forgeron...

Ronald E. Kramedjian wrote:
Bravo Ron!

Adele, c'est vrai!

Baron, did you get the idea when I suggested to you the "Horse Owners Helping Farriers" section?

It seems the political forum should be politics that involves farriers. And y'all have your hands full with that, from what I can see!

Why is it that all these non-farriers are posting here? Didn't I make it clear when I asked Red and Shadow not to post?

Baron