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Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 16:58 #1

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Ok guys,
This is a continuation of the shoes and equipment thread.

We all know horseshoers enjoy their so called "rugged individualist" myth. Reality is most of them are copycats who are not above stealing any idea that's not nailed down.

A very interesting point was brought up about Ron K's company logo. I must agree that it's close enough to be questionable. Although Ron can certainly do as he wishes I would opine that a bit more original thought would have been a little more tasteful.
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 17:12 #2

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Well since "most" horse owners don't have any idea what the AFA or any of their logos are does it really make any differance?

The AFA has had about 35 years or so to get this across to the horse owning public and hasn't made it yet.
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 17:30 #3

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J.H. shoeing wrote:
Well since "most" horse owners don't have any idea what the AFA or any of their logos are does it really make any differance?

The AFA has had about 35 years or so to get this across to the horse owning public and hasn't made it yet.


Good Point !! :D
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 19:20 #4

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I have been AFA certified for a long time and it is my goal to get CJF. My clients see that I am CF bcause it is on my card. Even though it is in plain sight nobody asks me about my CF not to mention who certifies farriers and their logos. I can also understand Mr. Bondra's point, it is a huge accomplishment to achieve AFA CJF.
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 19:41 #5

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Woudent it be worse if you were doing bad work
with all the letters under the sun
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 20:58 #6

I had the same thought as Mr. Holder, Ron *might* gain some de facto coattail points from his adoaptation of the CJF logo IF anyone outside of the AFA lnew what it meant...
Jason
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 21:06 #7

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smitty88 wrote:
Woudent it be worse if you were doing bad work
with all the letters under the sun
Guess it just depends. Some guys think all those letters make you a "REAL" horseshoer. But we already got a thread about that.

Jason Maki wrote:
I had the same thought as Mr. Holder, Ron *might* gain some de facto coattail points from his adoaptation of the CJF logo IF anyone outside of the AFA lnew what it meant...
Jason
That also depends. Not everyone holds that group in the highest regard so it could work either way. Perhaps it's good that the general public is ignorant of it.

Point being made here is that Ron said it was not a copy. That his logo is MUCH different and cannot possibly be mistaken for the AFAs. To me anyway it's close enough. If it's as he says perhaps he could tell everyone what was his inspiration for his logo then?
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 21:32 #8

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I personally don't care what anyone does to promote their business. But for someone that wanted to work within the AFA and even ran for office, I would think Ron has enough smarts to realize his logo won't fly with other afa coworkers.

There could be a downside to the logo though. One of his costumers might see it and ask him to make one for them. LOL:cool:
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 21:55 #9

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George,
Thanks for moving the thread.
Here are the logo's again next too each other for comparison.
I think Ron should change his company logo to something else until he earns his Journeyman status.
What do the rest of you think?
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 22:09 #10

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What i cant understand why the other thread was cloased
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 22:19 #11

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smitty88 wrote:
What i cant understand why the other thread was cloased


Smitty 88

Now your off subject of this thread! The subject is Ron K Logo. not Capewell nails. If i can remember how to start a thread, I will about Capewell nails.

It is easy to be side tracked, and our fearless leader ,as has been seen/shown in the past,is easily distracted/disoriented/discombobulated!

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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 22:19 #12

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JimBondra wrote:
What do the rest of you think?

Let's just say it no surprise coming from Ron! Ya almost want to feel sorry for the man. But not quite!
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 22:26 #13

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Eric Russell wrote:
Let's just say it no surprise coming from Ron! Ya almost want to feel sorry for the man. But not quite!
Hey Eric,

I got no dog in this fight and really don't care what he does. But why in the world you suppose he needs 3 different firms to represent him on various issues? If I had that many legal problems I think I'd need another job to pay all those lawyers:rolleyes:

Jim,

Obviously this annoys you a bit but as for me personally I would not want my name or reputation associated in any way with the AFA. To each their own though.
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 22:28 #14

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Jim Bondra,

Not being a lawyer versed in copyright/trademark vocabulary, I would venture that the laws of such require a certian modicum of difference , that difference probably has been met by Ron K's. logo.
If so the discussion becomes personal ,not legal! If legal ,I'm sure that the AFA will pursue it, if they do not,then it may not be important to them/it.
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RE:Ron K Logo 15 Jun 2008 22:38 #15

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George Geist wrote:
Hey Eric,

I got no dog in this fight and really don't care what he does. But why in the world you suppose he needs 3 different firms to represent him on various issues? If I had that many legal problems I think I'd need another job to pay all those lawyers:rolleyes:

I have no dog in this fight either!

When a farrier needs 3 different firms, its very simple what going on. He's not shoeing enough horses!
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