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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 09:54 #256

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Bob,
Was that year 1979 in Ireland
i could be wrong but i think

Ireland held the first International
in the RDS

i think the USA brought over a team
any way we are not part of the UK
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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 12:41 #257

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clinkercjf wrote:
Thank you Mr. Pethick for clarifying that to someone who should have known.
ROTFLMAO!

I do know. There was a bruha over there about the legality of allowing non-certified/registered farriers to ply their trade/compete. IIRC, had we not been able to work out an accomodation, we weren't going to be able to compete in England anymore.

Now the "negotiations" may have taken a while but as I recall, we weren't going back to England until "proper arrangements" had been made.

Spin it anyway you want, but that's what we were told by our leadership. And we should always believe our leadership, right?

At least that requirement makes more sense than the one requiring AFA officers(Treasurer excepted) to hold a CJF in order to be eligible for office. Nothing like excluding the majority of your membership from the right to hold office. As if being a CJF has anything whatsoever to do with holding office.......
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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 12:49 #258

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Phil Armitage wrote:
Common sense Rick. What other orginization in the US has more members and certified farriers?
That's it? Those are the reasons? (shakes head), unbelievable.

So according to you, size does matter. :eek:

I suppose it would be politically incorrect to wonder why such an organization has a preponderance of non-certified members, and continues to show a decline in membership, including those who sought and achieved certification and subsequently "left the fold" never to return.....
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RE:AFA Certification 06 May 2008 02:48 #259

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I've read this whole thread and it is pretty interesting how passionate farriers are about the subject, but somehow the most important aspect has been lost. To go and watch a farrier perform some aspect of our trade is educational. It does not matter if they shoe like me or not I have traveled all over the world to see horses get trimmed and shod. I like to be where the rubber meets the road. It does not matter if it is a comp. a cert. a clinic, or a convention I enjoy watching someone demonstrating skill in my trade. All of these events are just an excuse to do one thing---exchange ideas and bounce things off one another. You don't like someone judging you, don't have them judge you. You should still go to see what's going on. There is no end to the rainbow, you think you are a bada** there is always someone who is more of a bada** and hopefully you will run into them (If your lucky) You hate square toers? chances are you will need to shoe one with square toes next week. Hate perimeter fit? that will be coming down the pike too. Hate shoes? Why would you cut that little appliance out of your bag of goodies? When you think your talking to an ********* make sure their not doing the same thing. The future is wide open for a student but its pretty limited for an expert.

The #1 AFA member benefit is networking with all the cool people I have met and taught me stuff, and a lot of those people were not AFA members. Some are certified and some are not.

Keep going and keep learning and remember you will die before you know it all, that I can assure you.

Just what I've noticed in this thread.

Craig Trnka:)
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RE:AFA Certification 06 May 2008 03:15 #260

Well Said ,Sir , Well Said!!!!
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RE:AFA Certification 06 May 2008 05:46 #261

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Craig Trnka wrote:
... The future is wide open for a student but its pretty limited for an expert.

Craig Trnka:)

Craig sure has a way of impacting me by statements he makes. First time I saw Craig he was giving a clinic before a contest. His opening statement was, "I have failed more than anyone sitting here in this audience..."

That right there told me he was someone to pay attention to. I have never had that impression change!
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RE:AFA Certification 08 May 2008 05:24 #262

Eric Russell wrote:
I attended one afa phone conference. I had to listen to the biggest bunch of *****s I've ever listened to in my life. I highly suggest people get involved and sit through a conference call. It might have not been my calling. Although, I'm still waiting to see about those precerts! I listened to a bunch of guys ***** and moan and I haven't heard about all these precerts going on.
Been to three of them --great stuff going on!!! Sure has helped some guys!! Sorry you have a bad outlook on it.
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RE:AFA Certification 09 May 2008 14:36 #263

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Phil Armitage wrote:
Common sense Rick. What other orginization in the US has more members and certified farriers?
I think BWFA has you beat by far. Last time I checked their website they had about 8000 and I'd suppose almost all are certified.

Rick Burten wrote:
That's it? Those are the reasons? (shakes head), unbelievable.

So according to you, size does matter. :eek:

I suppose it would be politically incorrect to wonder why such an organization has a preponderance of non-certified members, and continues to show a decline in membership, including those who sought and achieved certification and subsequently "left the fold" never to return.....

Is food for thought;)
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RE:AFA Certification 09 May 2008 14:52 #264

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I think BWFA has you beat by far. Last time I checked their website they had about 8000

Anybody can claim anything, but I'd bet a little that an independent audit of the dues-paying membership would be nowhere near that number.

and I'd suppose almost all are certified.


Dog's too?

Is food for thought;)

Ever since the BWFA tried to sell me a "master" certification, their credibility has been hovering around zero on my personal scale, so I'm a bit skeptical of any claims emanating from Ralph's private cash cow.
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RE:AFA Certification 09 May 2008 14:56 #265

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Tom Stovall, CJF wrote:
Ever since the BWFA tried to sell me a "master" certification, their credibility has been hovering around zero on my personal scale, so I'm a bit skeptical of any claims emanating from Ralph's private cash cow.

We're only talking numbers here since that was most important to Phil;)

And stricly by numbers I suppose dogs do count as well:D
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RE:AFA Certification 10 May 2008 03:22 #266

George Geist wrote:
We're only talking numbers here since that was most important to Phil;)

And stricly by numbers I suppose dogs do count as well:D
George

Credibility is also important to me. I could have joined the BWFA, paid my dues and easily been certified with no effort years ago. :rolleyes:
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RE:AFA Certification 10 May 2008 03:30 #267

Phil Armitage wrote:
Credibility is also important to me. I could have joined the BWFA, paid my dues and easily been certified with no effort years ago. :rolleyes:
I'll Bite ! So what do you think is credible?
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RE:AFA Certification 10 May 2008 03:33 #268

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Ole Ralph will grandfather anyone into his club!:eek:
"As I see it, winners get the money - while losers talk of "individual goals" and similar stuff." Tom Stovall
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RE:AFA Certification 10 May 2008 03:48 #269

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I'll Bite ! So what do you think is credible?

Jake I joined this forum years ago for one reason, to speak up against barefoot, after I realised the Internet is full of barefoot websites and very few websites about shoeing like this forum.

AFA and Natural Balance, both are credible in my book and great source of education.

For some reason you like busting my chops, no problem. :)
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RE:AFA Certification 10 May 2008 20:11 #270

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Phil Armitage wrote:
Jake I joined this forum years ago for one reason, to speak up against barefoot, after I realised the Internet is full of barefoot websites and very few websites about shoeing like this forum.

AFA and Natural Balance, both are credible in my book and great source of education.

For some reason you like busting my chops, no problem. :)


Phil..since you are such a strong supporter of AFA Cert., why then do you continue to avoid it? Membership as well? Just curious.

Bo
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