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RE:AFA Certification 04 May 2008 00:29 #241

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Excellent article on this subject by Bob Smith in the new AFJ. I thought a real good read. Anybody see it?

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RE:AFA Certification 04 May 2008 02:17 #242

Phil Armitage wrote:
Sounds good in writing Rick. So why is the failure rate so high, even with tenured older farriers shoeing high end horses everyday?
Because they sit on the computer trying to get the high -score for posts! Instead of practicing for the test! It is simple stuff, Practice makes perfect , or at least get's you closer to it . Typing skills has yet to be proven to help one to get any horseshoeing certification, that i know of. It's probably a good thing if you want to be a secretary,though????????
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RE:AFA Certification 04 May 2008 03:34 #243

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Because they sit on the computer trying to get the high -score for posts! Instead of practicing for the test! It is simple stuff, Practice makes perfect , or at least get's you closer to it . Typing skills has yet to be proven to help one to get any horseshoeing certification, that i know of. It's probably a good thing if you want to be a secretary,though????????

Can you give horse's what they need? Your certification does not prove anything to me.
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RE:AFA Certification 04 May 2008 04:00 #244

Phil Armitage wrote:
George good idea, however the Guild and NB Cert. come no where near the Certification the AFA offers. Sorry, but that is a fact. The AFA Cert. is by far the most recognized and considered the most credible certification in the US. Right or wrong it has deep roots and been around for a long time.
Pretty much sums it up ,Don't you think??
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RE:AFA Certification 04 May 2008 04:24 #245

Jake Whitman wrote:
Pretty much sums it up ,Don't you think??

Your too funny Jake.

Huge emphasise on "Right or Wrong"...........
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RE:AFA Certification 04 May 2008 16:59 #246

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Phil Armitage wrote:
George good idea, however the Guild and NB Cert. come no where near the Certification the AFA offers. Sorry, but that is a fact.
No, its not. Its an opinion. And until someone has successfully undergone the other certifications, that someone has no basis for comparison.
The AFA Cert. is by far the most recognized and considered the most credible certification in the US.
Its considered "most credible" by those who have never successfully undertaken the other certifications. Of course, on the other hand, there are those who have taken one or both of the other exams, but never taken the AFA exam(s). They may well feel that the exam(s) they have had success with are the "most credible".
Besides, the AFA practical measures something different that do the other exams. So making a comparison between/amongst the three is going to be a very subjective if not impossible thing to do.

And, who is to make that comparison?
Right or wrong it has deep roots and been around for a long time.
And......?
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RE:AFA Certification 04 May 2008 19:26 #247

Rick the best thing about any certification is the education if one takes it that way. Reminds me of going to church, you have those who think they are good because they go. The word is a seed and can be cast on stone or soil. :rolleyes:

AFA Certification right now is well known and considered the only credible certification available to farriers in the US. Is it the best source of education, I do not know. I'm still learning and searching. :)
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RE:AFA Certification 04 May 2008 23:55 #248

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Phil Armitage wrote:
AFA Certification right now is well known and considered the only credible certification available to farriers in the US.
Again, by whom? And, what is their basis for that opinion?
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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 00:12 #249

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Originally Posted by Phil Armitage
AFA Certification right now is well known and considered the only credible certification available to farriers in the US.


Rick Burten wrote:
Again, by whom? And, what is their basis for that opinion?

Well, the Farriers Registration Council of the United Kingdom will accept as a qualified farrier (DWCF) anyone with the AFA CJF certification and four years of experience.

I would consider that credible. :D
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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 00:56 #250

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BPethick wrote:
Well, the Farriers Registration Council of the United Kingdom will accept as a qualified farrier (DWCF) anyone with the AFA CJF certification and four years of experience.

I would consider that credible. :D
Bob,

I've never said that the AFA certifications are not credible, quite the contrary.

But they are not the only credible ones.

And lets not forget why the FRC chose to accept the AFA CJF as commesurate with the DWCF. IIRC, it had to do with the American Farriers Team competing in the British Isles.
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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 01:01 #251

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Just took the CJF test for the first time this weekend and not to my surprise it was a terrific learning experience.
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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 01:11 #252

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Rick Burten wrote:
Bob,

I've never said that the AFA certifications are not credible, quite the contrary.

But they are not the only credible ones.

And lets not forget why the FRC chose to accept the AFA CJF as commesurate with the DWCF. IIRC, it had to do with the American Farriers Team competing in the British Isles.

Why would you think it had to do with the Team?
The Team has competed in the UK since 1979 and was given permission to shoe horses by Princess Ann during their stay. It was not a problem.

I was the Examiner at the certification that the FRC sent their delegates to determine if they would accept the AFA exams. It had nothing to do with the Team.
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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 01:28 #253

Rick Burten wrote:
Again, by whom? And, what is their basis for that opinion?

Common sense Rick. What other orginization in the US has more members and certified farriers?
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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 01:29 #254

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The requirement to be a CJF as a Team member came quite a bit after the FRC accepted the CJF as a qualified Farrier.
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RE:AFA Certification 05 May 2008 03:18 #255

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Thank you Mr. Pethick for clarifying that to someone who should have known.
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