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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 27 Mar 2008 17:54 #16

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brian robertson wrote:
Ya know, if you are paying taxes it means you're making money (a good thing). Quit complaining; the alternative is not good at all.

So slavery is OK with you as long as your making money?

If the government says its ok for me to keep 77% of my money then one must agree that the government OWNS my money and are such nice masters that they allow me to keep some. Since I turn my labor into a monetary value which they own, wouldn't you agree that they must own my labor as well?

Its blatantly a form of slavery. When slaves do not yield they are punished, when we do not pay we are jailed, if we wish to be free and not imprisoned we face penalty of death. Free Men are not slaves. I do not appreciate being treated as a slave, it's even worse when I am constantly being told I am free.

I wrote a song about this sort hypocrisy once. In fact thats just what its called, Hypocrisy. Listen if you want.
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 00:47 #17

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If you aren't willing to pay taxes, please refrain from using anything that is funded by those taxes. Too numerous to list.

Which, by the way, means you'll pretty much have to pack your bags and "get out of Dodge"; except you won't be able to use things like roads, waterways or airports so maybe "Scotty will beam you up."

Living in the USA is worth the price. If you won't pony up, move somewhere else, 'cause there are plenty of folks willing to take your spot.
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 01:05 #18

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Brian,
I love driving on smothe roads, clean tap water, a dozen well trained guys with a couple million bucks worth of equipment there in five minutes if my house catches fire, and a cop to tell my noisy nebhor to quiet down.
What I don't like is paying more than than someone who won't work, and then gets to live off the state.
Add the waste that the gov skims off the top, and I want things to be a bit more fair.
www.fairtax.org

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 01:56 #19

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Bill Adams wrote:
Brian,
I love driving on smothe roads, clean tap water, a dozen well trained guys with a couple million bucks worth of equipment there in five minutes if my house catches fire, and a cop to tell my noisy nebhor to quiet down.
What I don't like is paying more than than someone who won't work, and then gets to live off the state.
Add the waste that the gov skims off the top, and I want things to be a bit more fair.
www.fairtax.org

Agreed!

I don't mind paying "My Taxes". What I mind is "paying someone else's taxes!":eek::mad:

Look, listen and research my signature URL.
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 02:36 #20

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brian robertson wrote:
If you aren't willing to pay taxes, please refrain from using anything that is funded by those taxes. Too numerous to list.

Which, by the way, means you'll pretty much have to pack your bags and "get out of Dodge"; except you won't be able to use things like roads, waterways or airports so maybe "Scotty will beam you up."

Just because I pay taxes does not mean I do it willingly. Besides could you name a service I use, desire or benefit from that income tax pays for? Good luck.
Living in the USA is worth the price. If you won't pony up, move somewhere else, 'cause there are plenty of folks willing to take your spot.

I shouldn't have to 'pony up' to live in the US. Though being responsible and civic and giving back to the community is a desirable trait of an American (people who support taxes usually are significantly less likely to contribute to charities), no one shall be obligated by use of force to empty their wallets into the pockets of someone else. If you support that type system that essentially owns your assets please move somewhere like communist china. I carry the values this country was founded on, stop promoting the destruction of such values.
Bill Adams wrote:
I love driving on smothe roads, clean tap water, a dozen well trained guys with a couple million bucks worth of equipment there in five minutes if my house catches fire, and a cop to tell my noisy nebhor to quiet down.

I agree, yet none of those things income tax pays for.
What I don't like is paying more than than someone who won't work, and then gets to live off the state. Add the waste that the gov skims off the top, and I want things to be a bit more fair.

Getting warmer.
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 02:41 #21

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SlowShoe wrote:
I wrote a song about this sort hypocrisy once. In fact thats just what its called, Hypocrisy. Listen if you want.

Josh,
You're good!
John
"That it will never come again is what makes life so sweet"
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 02:45 #22

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TRIP HAMMER wrote:
Josh,
You're good!
John

Thanks John! And thanks so much for the help with my bar shoes Monday night!!!
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 03:23 #23

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brian robertson wrote:
If you aren't willing to pay taxes, please refrain from using anything that is funded by those taxes. Too numerous to list.

Which, by the way, means you'll pretty much have to pack your bags and "get out of Dodge"; except you won't be able to use things like roads, waterways or airports so maybe "Scotty will beam you up."

Living in the USA is worth the price. If you won't pony up, move somewhere else, 'cause there are plenty of folks willing to take your spot.

I use roads and I don't mind paying for them but why should I pay for airports, or subsidize anybody elses transportation, or pay for someone elses education or their food, housing or medical care? What about the billions in plain old government waste?

It's not paying that's the problem, it's what we are paying for.

And no, I don't think I'll leave. I wouldn't mind running some of the socialists out of the country though.

Participating in the process is part of our job or, at least, one of our rights. For most of us, who aren't going to run for public office, that means voting and telling our elected officials (and anyone else who will listen) when we think government is going the wrong way. Government can't serve the will of the people unless the people make their will known.

They are supposed to be working for us...you know? The whole government by the people and for the people thing?

You make it sound as though we are here to seve them. You make it sound as though we are somehow in debt to those in office. They are public servants and we are the public. We pay their salery, not the other way around. I, and countless family members before me have paid taxes in this country since there was such a thing...and they were here before it was even a country. We paid the taxes, did the work and faught the wars. Most recently, my own son served a tour in Iraq and is currently training up for his next tour.

And someone would suggest that I should leave if I'm not completely happy about the way things are being done? LOL, just as soon as someone steps up to make me leave.
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 07:03 #24

Income Tax is a ruse They hold out that carrot- will it go up will it go down "every body watch the carrot ! " While we get taxed on everything else- Gas Tires Guns Ammo Cars the parts to make them run Phones , Power Beer airfare- Name it. Dont be fooled in to thinking Food is not taxed The farmer pays, the trucking co. pays, the whearhouse pays, the grocer pays and then they tell you "Hey it's ok THe benevolent Gov. has decided you should not have to pay tax on this. " Of corse we are producing Food Stamps and hey people from Mars are paying for these so It's ok.

My last phone bill had an "Other" tax on it. Other?!! I have to dial one for english and Pay OTHER!

It is the peoples Birth rite to dissent more should try. and not just mill about with the herd of sheeple.

Chuck Presnail
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 11:47 #25

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What form does your dissent take? Will there be "film at eleven" on MSNBC, Fox, or the like?
Rick Burten PF

In the immortal words of Ron White: "But let me tell you something, folks: You can't fix S-tupid. There's not a pill you can take; there's not a class you can go to. S-tupid is forever."
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Je pense donc je suis
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 12:14 #26

brian robertson wrote:
If you aren't willing to pay taxes, please refrain from using anything that is funded by those taxes. Too numerous to list.

Which, by the way, means you'll pretty much have to pack your bags and "get out of Dodge"; except you won't be able to use things like roads, waterways or airports so maybe "Scotty will beam you up."

Living in the USA is worth the price. If you won't pony up, move somewhere else, 'cause there are plenty of folks willing to take your spot.

I agree, however too many in this country take and do not give, and put the brunt of it on hardworking folks.
Phil Armitage, CF
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"Anyone who proposes to do good must not expect people to roll stones out of his way, but must accept his lot calmly if they even roll a few more upon it." Albert Schweitzer
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 12:22 #27

SlowShoe wrote:
I wrote a song about this sort hypocrisy once. In fact thats just what its called, Hypocrisy. Listen if you want.


Hey, Josh how are you doing man? Hey it was good, nice flow, like the tone of your voice and rhythm. A little pitchy here and there in the start then you got better control in the middle to the end. Good, it is good, yea I'm feeling you dog. Good, it's a yes for me dog, your going to Holywood man!!!!! ;)
Phil Armitage, CF
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"Anyone who proposes to do good must not expect people to roll stones out of his way, but must accept his lot calmly if they even roll a few more upon it." Albert Schweitzer
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 14:08 #28

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How about alittle Friday humor for the weekend?

Mad Wife Disease......
>
> A guy was sitting quietly reading his paper when his
>wife walked up behind him and whacked
> him on the head with a magazine.
>
> "What was that for?" he asked.
>
> "That was for the piece of paper in your pants
>pocket with the name Laura Lou written on it,"
> she replied.
>
> "Two weeks ago when I went to the races, Laura Lou
>was the name of one of the horses I bet on,"
> he explained.
>
> "Oh honey, I'm sorry," she said. "I should have
>known there was a good explanation."
>
> Three days later he was watching a ball game on TV
>when she walked up and hit him in the head
> again, this time with the iron skillet, which
>knocked him out cold.
>
> When he came to, he asked, "What the hell was that
>for?"
>
> She replied......."Your horse called."
"As I see it, winners get the money - while losers talk of "individual goals" and similar stuff." Tom Stovall
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 19:11 #29

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Gary Hill wrote:
> She replied......."Your horse called."

I've thought it funny that I leave little slips of paper and post it notes laying around with women's names and phone numbers with out ever raising questions from Mamma.

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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RE:Taxes............ What a Pain.... what if.. 28 Mar 2008 19:17 #30

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Chuck Presnail wrote:
Income Tax is a ruse They hold out that carrot- will it go up will it go down "every body watch the carrot ! " While we get taxed on everything else- Gas Tires Guns Ammo Cars the parts to make them run Phones , Power Beer airfare- Name it. Dont be fooled in to thinking Food is not taxed The farmer pays, the trucking co. pays, the whearhouse pays, the grocer pays and then they tell you "Hey it's ok THe benevolent Gov. has decided you should not have to pay tax on this. " Of corse we are producing Food Stamps and hey people from Mars are paying for these so It's ok.

My last phone bill had an "Other" tax on it. Other?!! I have to dial one for english and Pay OTHER!

It is the peoples Birth rite to dissent more should try. and not just mill about with the herd of sheeple. Chuck Presnail
Hey Chuck,
Good to hear from you again.
Dissent is available at www.fairtax.org .

Hey Rick,
If Chuck dissented, I'm sure it would make the news.

A rightous man regardeth the life of his beast. Proverbs 12:10
I don't give a damn for a man who can only spell a word one way. Mark Twain
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