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Old 04-21-2009, 09:23 AM
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does anyone have a picture of a lateral support and feather shoe? If so can you post it?
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:31 AM
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does anyone have a picture of a lateral support and feather shoe? If so can you post it?
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The DF series "Grand Prix" 24x8 shoe offered by Kerckhaert is a lateral support hind shoe. It comes clipped, uses E nails, sizes #00 - 4? that I know of.
This is a great shoe, and I've have some on my truck. You can also put a small trailer on the shoe, as well.

Hope this helps......................Linda Marie
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Old 04-21-2009, 07:00 PM
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Jason,

A feather I believe is a wedge that is severly safed. And then just bump the outside for your width. I have a pic in the book of shoes of a caulk and feather shoe. I can post that, so you can see the feather. Or I could go try to make one and show you what I think it might look like. What section you want?

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Old 04-21-2009, 08:49 PM
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Hot rod,
If you could do both, that would be great. I looked up a "feathered" shoe in a book and it showed a preventered medial branch. I built a lateral support side and a preventered medial branch. I first swelled the heel quarter like a feaher, then beat it back to flat cause the book did not show that. I'll post a pic of my guess.
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I'll go out and take a pic of the caulk and feather and post it here.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:15 PM
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Re: need some help

Here is my first attempt at a swelled heel side bone bar shoe-- 11 inches of 3/8x1 should have cut more. I also learned you'll smash the inside edge of your set down if you do not weld that side over the corner of the anvil
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Re: need some help

Heres a pic of my guess--which as usual when i guess was wrong--12 inches of 3/8x1
thanks for the pic---I'll make one tomorrow and post it.
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Old 04-21-2009, 09:28 PM
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also tried my first onion heel 11 inches of 3/8x1. I forged in a bit of lateral support on that side. Is that wrong? I have a bunch of shoes to learn before November. Any help is appreciated.
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a lighter picture of my first onion heel. 11 inches of 3/8x1 any advice... I have a lot of shoes to learn before november.
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I have made a few of those. I will have to look at my notes on it.
Will check tomorrow.
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a lighter picture of my first onion heel. 11 inches of 3/8x1 any advice... I have a lot of shoes to learn before november.
Jason
Jason,to give a horse latteral support,meANS FITTING THE SHOE TO WHERE THE HOOF ISN'T.It is to stop lateral breakover.The foot that is shod,that needs a lateral shoe has to be missing latteral wall.So when a shoe is puched equally
on each side it is not a lateral shoe.And when a horse needs lateral support and a sideweight is used,the only reason it works so well is if the horse brushes.
Then in turn the reason the shoe is wide lateraly and punched deep, the medial side wide is to hit the white line.And should not be attempted without a pad,because a horse needs medial support, because there is not enough steel on the inside to support the landing.Fighting lateral breakover is something farriers fight their whole life.........
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Old 04-21-2009, 10:26 PM
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JPT,
Your tone is that of one speaking to a neophyte... ain't none of them here.Are we attempting to stop lateral breakover, or place a buttress under the down force vector and correct the Ground force reaction in relation to the limb? If a lat heel is squashed axially and the 1/4 flared abaxially, what exactly is wrong with supporting ONLY the displaced heel and correcting the GFR?
Though that shoe is not what was intended.. the lateral heel is correct for a lateral support hind. the stock runs from 3/4 in the toe to well over an inch in the heel--- the shoe will fit the toe and begin expanding just behind the clip.
I built a lateral support yesterday for a deformed yearling that was built as you described-- a full inch wide from the lateral toe 1/4 and 5/8 wide through the toe all the way to the medial heel. I fullered as though the lateral branch was 5/8 then boxed it away from the foot surface too mirror a 5/8 shoe-- clipped it --- but the owners opted to Transfer to Jesus before I got to nail it on-- I gave it to a vet student for a paper weight.
How would you build a lateral support and feather shoe?
Are you taking the AWCF test in November? If so perhaps you have some sound advice on the fourty or so antiquated shoes I've got to figure out.
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Re: need some help

I am quite sure Jason knows what the purpose of this shoe is.
Jason just add the feather to the medial side of that shoe and
crisp it up and you got it. Gonna need a little math on that one.

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Old 04-21-2009, 11:06 PM
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though that shoe is not what was intended.. the lateral heel is correct for a lateral support hind. the stock runs from 3/4 in the toe to well over an inch in the heel--- the shoe will fit the toe and begin expanding just behind the clip.
I built a lateral support yesterday for a deformed yearling that was built as you described-- a full inch wide from the lateral toe 1/4 and 5/8 wide through the toe all the way to the medial heel. I fullered as though the lateral branch was 5/8 then boxed it away from the foot surface too mirror a 5/8 shoe-- clipped it --- but the owners opted to Transfer to Jesus before I got to nail it on-- I gave it to a vet student for a paper weight.
How would you build a lateral support and feather shoe?
Are you taking the AWCF test in November?
Jason
Jason,You are getting ahead of yourself.Basics first,modification is when there are no alternitives,when your basic skills willnot work for you.Then you modifi the out come.As a rule for lateral breakover is tight to the inside.When a man can stop lateral breakover he is a hero,and when he can't he is nobody.Because the straighter the horse goes,the ribbons seem to build.All horses that are shod to the knee seem to move straighter no matter which way the knee points.Because there is no other way, but to follow the "KNEE"
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